If you were living in a city without casinos and had to fly to play, assuming the cost of travel was constant, which would be your top 5 BJ destinations? Would they be different for DD and 6 deck?
In the old days, it was always 1. Las Vegas, 2. Reno/Lake Tahoe and 3. Atlantic City.
What would you recommend now and any comments to defend your selection?
I liked your question and as a newbie to the culture of BJ was surprised at the replies. I thought the idea of a forum was to generously help others out, not be miserly. If I knew the answer, I would hope that I would want to share it. This sheds a new light on things, for me.
2 analogies and a quick summary and conclusion.Originally Posted by Clint
If you publically disclose who you can grab by the *****, the ***** may get overworked, shying away leaving all to remark on past glories. Last summer, we had relatives from out of country come and visit their Canadian They displayed the ultimate art of schnoring to a new level. The concept of picking up a tab was foreign and unknown to them. I let my sister know that her kids and their families had tired us out, and to leave us alone for a while.
The dark side Monitors this site also. They WILL react to certain disclosures, leaving that great ***** all to themselves. OP needs to develop contacts in the dressing room in order to ferret the information he wants
I would add to these caveats that there is not a lot of (very) good games. Some must be protected;
but what is good for me may not be good for you. Some games can only be exploited at low stakes;
while others can only be played at high stakes, by those who know how to blind the Eye in the Sky.
Geographic locations that are distant are only good for BJ Road Warriors and (some) vacationers.
After you do this a couple of times and watch huge BR AP's come in and make hundreds of thousands of dollars at your honey holes and then see the casino make the games crappy as a countermeasure you will soon stop posting your honey holes on an open forum. Networking in private among a few trusted AP's is how info is shared without burning games. One thing that bugs the crap out of me is someone got greedy and got barred at their honey hole so they post it on the public forum. Meanwhile you have not been greedy and have been winning consistently for years. After the post the game gets burned and your honey hole now is a shit hole. Note who does this and never share anything with them. They don't understand how to protect good games. It doesn't matter to them if your honey hole gets ruined. They are greedy and as such killed it for them. Greed kills the AP. Then their greed extends to the point that they don't care about others that are still making money at the honey hole. Their mind twisted by greed somehow thinks getting the game burned so the casino is no longer a honey hole hurts the casino. I got news for these idiots. The casino owes them one for making their vulnerability obvious enough for the casino to take countermeasures.
Don't get why People think others should make less money so they can bet red and green chips all day in a smoky shithole. Yeah no one likes when someone burns your game, but blaming them is idiotic at best. Or when they describe something as "their" game, there is no such thing. People don't get monster BR's by being idiots, well maybe if they inherit a 200+m real estate empire...
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I couldn't remember who posted such a foolish post after getting the boot at a great game but it was you wasn't it. I didn't play that game but someone I know had been milking the game for several years. I hope that the law of attraction gets you. The energy you put out is what comes back to you. That is an unforgivable sin among AP's. If you want to trade the info in private and the game gets burned its one thing. But to post it on the open forum it shows you don't understand the value of the information in networking or that posting such in the open forum will put you on everyone's shit list whether other AP's played the game. It was just random chance that it wasn't any other AP that you screwed over for no personal gain. I guess you aren't in a network because you screwed everyone you share info with in private when you did it. Good luck being trusted by anyone with sensitive information now. You proved once the info is of no use to you that you will screw everyone else with the info over without any personal gain from the exchange. It would be somewhat understandable if it was an AP move for you but it wasn't. There is no possible upside for you in the open forum. AP opportunities are dwindling because of the greed of shortsighted AP's.
Some have no choice but to play in their limited local stores. And while this isn't "their" game, I would argue that it is more their game than somebody who comes in from the outside like a hurricane and blows it away, leaving it in ruins. Don't forget that it is also fun for some people to just simply beat the game, even if it is for just hundreds a week instead of thousands.
My father plays golf and could never understand why I liked to play blackjack. I told him "well, you pay to play your hobby. I get paid to play mine."
Who else could possibly be to blame? If, by your terminology, they "burned" your game, then by definition they did it and bear the blame.
My bankroll is not monster (yet), but my winnings from local digs has allowed me to reroof my house, and coming soon, to painting my house. It is not my primary income, but it is a lucrative side income and is getting me closer to my financial goals. So you'll excuse me if I raise a fuss because I have been playing at the same place for years and it is suddenly closed due to a greedy person who pigs out. If a game is closed, than nobody can play. You can shear a sheep many times, but skin him only once.
If I am remembering right (apparently I did not remember right, the person that made the post knows he made it) that you burned a game that you got banned from by posting it on the forum, I wish you would consider the idiocy of what you did. Nothing wrong with sharing the info in private even if the game ultimately gets burned because of it but only an idiot posts a game they have been banned from that is great on the open forum. It is so selfish and shortsighted that I am amazed that such a person could last at all as an AP. These to traits are AP killers. The trick isn't to fool the casino employees into thinking you aren't a counter, that point is so obvious you must assume they all know. The trick is to be tolerated despite the fact that they know or suspect you are a counter. A failure to take the fact that you aren't fooling them into account will get you banned quick. You need to give them enough room for doubt to be comfortable looking the other way. But you aren't really fooling them.
Some play a slash and burn strategy and there is nothing wrong with that. Purposely making sure games that are burned for you are burned for all is stupid. Those AP's that could have been occupied making money while you earned elsewhere are now competing with you at other games because you burned the game. Whether your intent was to burn the game or not the result of posting a great game in an open forum was a given. Not understanding that would be the result just shows you have a lot to learn. Great games exist because not too many AP's know about them or the casino staff are sharp enough at protecting the game from true threats (not every counter that plays there). What is good for the AP is also good for the casino. Without AP greed or stupidity there would be great games everywhere. With the death of each opportunity there are fewer great games for the AP's to attack as a group. This threatens all great games. The increasing concentration of AP's due to fewer playable games being available causes more games to be burned. It is an a vicious circle that accelerates the decay of conditions as more AP's are forced to play the same opportunities left due to the lessening of the number of opportunities. It is a AP to great game ratio issue.
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