As a card counter is a correct decision to play out losing session?

[seriousplayer]

When a Blackjack card counter have an edge on the game, they won't use a loss limit and win goal systems. Usually as a Blackjack card counter with the mathematical edge, the card counter has no reason to leave because they reached a specific lost limit and win goal. I read Kevin Blackwood's book and he mention that Blackjack card counters should not use a loss limit system. But it would be difficult when you can't seem to win in positive counts and dealers getting Blackjacks, Twenties and Twenty ones. What I've learned is never leave favorable counts when the count turns positive. The only way to win money is at a favorable count. I think it a big losing session is inevitable after a series of small winning sessions. As a card counter it is always a correct decision to play out losing sessions until your trip bankroll is exhausted? Can some Blackjack experts here please share their experience on this?

[ChampangePloppy]

To answer your question, no you're not always supposed to play out losing sessions. Exposure (heat) is a problem when you play a long session trying to "get even". The longer you're sitting there spreading and counting the more the pits/surveillance can make a decision on your play. So rather than a stop win/loss exit strategy a better one would be a time/heat based exit strategy.

A big losing session is always an inevitable possibility unless you stop playing forever, doesn't matter if you just won five sessions in a row or lost three big session already.

[marriedputter]

As a card counter it is always a correct decision to play out losing sessions until your trip bankroll is exhausted? Can some Blackjack experts here please share their experience on this?

NO! And I must admit, this has been a weakness for me in the past. At my most tolerant local store, I got my tail handed to me and just kept plugging away. I only did it at this particular place because I knew how tolerant they were. I was down more than $3000 and came back up until I was only down $450. I should have left FAR before that. I was half-shoed for the first time ever at the most tolerant place in my rounds.
I figured that they wouldn't care since I was losing anyway. I was wrong. It is very rare that a ploppy makes such a comeback after being so down. If a ploppy did make a comeback after being down this much, it's probably because they made a few enormous bets while chasing their losses and got lucky. While as a counter, I was being patient and waiting on a good situation. In other words, I just kept playing the same game that I was playing all along and slowly got my money back. I could tell that after years of being careful, I had finally crossed a line. That suspicion was confirmed when they half-shoed me.
I have been counting for 15 years, and I consider not leaving while down to be my biggest ever mistake.

[Ryemo]

In my opinion, there 3 major reasons to leave the table:

1) Heat. If I stay, will I get backed off?
2) Out of money. If I exhaust my session or trip BR, you have no choice obviously.
3) Fatigue. If I continue to play while tired, I am more likely to make mistakes. So it's time to go.

[Bubbles]

I sort of have win limits. I don't leave in the middle of good counts. Ok, once I did, but the look on the dealer's face was worth it. I do leave before my session time limit is up if I reach my win limit for that store. I don't really have a loss limit, but I suppose that would be the end of my trip BR because it's hard to pull money out of an empty wallet.

[Bigdaddy]

Another possible reason to cut your session short if it's a loss -

If you're trying to manage your session win/loss record at a particular store to make it look like you're a loser, then cutting your losing sessions short will increase your losing sessions relative to your winning ones. It's just that the winning ones will be for a lot more money, but they could attribute that to the perpetual loser that gets lucky once and a while....

[bec88]

It's all one large endless session at the end of the day. I try not to win too much on a given session. I generally try not to lose too much either. You don't want to show the casino how deep your wallet really can go... that way they know you're well funded and could judge you a threat.

[seriousplayer]

Does anybody know why taking a break from losing session helps with recovery? Suppose you are losing in two days of play but you return the next week to the same casino you start winning.

[stopgambling]

Does anybody know why taking a break from losing session helps with recovery? Suppose you are losing in two days of play but you return the next week to the same casino you start winning.

IF WE CAN GET SOMEONE IN THE MEDICAL FIELD TO answer this . I would believe it affects our brain chemistry. If you read most /all good posts in all the bj forums you would have a good idea to these questions . i have read a lot of good ARCHIVED posts.It pays to keep learning and work hard .

[stopgambling]

When i am angry,tired , hungry and distracted ,my counting , deck estimation , bet ramping ,heat awareness etc are all "off" .How can you play a win when these thing happens ?

[marriedputter]

I try not to win too much on a given session. I generally try not to lose too much either. You don't want to show the casino how deep your wallet really can go

Very wise.

[21forme]

In my opinion, there 3 major reasons to leave the table:

1) Heat. If I stay, will I get backed off?
2) Out of money. If I exhaust my session or trip BR, you have no choice obviously.
3) Fatigue. If I continue to play while tired, I am more likely to make mistakes. So it's time to go.

4) You've bought in for enough to CTR and they want your ID.

It's all one large endless session at the end of the day. I try not to win too much on a given session. I generally try not to lose too much either. You don't want to show the casino how deep your wallet really can go... that way they know you're well funded and could judge you a threat.

Very well said

Does anybody know why taking a break from losing session helps with recovery? Suppose you are losing in two days of play but you return the next week to the same casino you start winning.

This sounds like something BJGenius would say and will turn the thread yellow.

[Ryemo]

4) You've bought in for enough to CTR and they want your ID.

Yep! I thought I was missing one, lol.