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Thread: Seeking info on the workings of a CSM

  1. 09-26-2016, 07:57 AM #1
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    Seeking info on the workings of a CSM


    I am seeking info on the workings of a CSM

    More specifically, I want to know this:

    If the dealer puts the spent cards back into

    the C S M after every round, how long does

    it take before those cards are able to appear

    on the felt.

    I have recently received two distinctly diverse

    opinions (stated as fact) concerning this issue.
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  2. 09-26-2016, 08:21 AM #2
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    I believe that the earliest they could appear is around 15 cards later.
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  3. 09-26-2016, 08:22 AM #3
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    Would you care to share the other opinions?
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  4. 09-26-2016, 08:28 AM #4
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    I have been told that the "shuffling" is truly continual so that any card can reappear immediately.

    I have also been told that the cards can be unavailable for several rounds, depending upon the

    number of spots (boxes) being dealt to.
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  5. 09-26-2016, 09:06 AM #5
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    Well there is a pile of around 14 cards that gets pushed down into the front of csm,so i don't think a card can reappear before that.
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  6. 09-26-2016, 10:51 AM #6
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    So ... if, for example, one plays heads-up on 3 spots the 11 cards (average)
    that are exposed are NOT reintroduced to the decks of cards for just 1 round ?
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  7. 09-26-2016, 12:14 PM #7
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    I would be.
    Do you think this old studie https://discountgambling.net/2012/07...-blackjack-ev/ is to be taken seriously ?
    It's a real question.
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  8. 09-26-2016, 12:17 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippe B View Post
    Do you think this old studie https://discountgambling.net/2012/07...-blackjack-ev/ is to be taken seriously ?
    That is Steven Hows website is to be taken seriously.
    Play within your bankroll, pick your games with care and learn everything you can about the game. The winning will come. It has to. It's in the cards. -- Bryce Carlson
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  9. 09-26-2016, 12:53 PM #9
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    As anecdote on June 24, 2015 I saw a dealer empty the csm ! She usually waited half shoe before reuse cards.
    Unfortunately it was only second time I played. I didn't count.
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    I have seen numerous times , there are about 12-15 cards in the buffer .which is the preloaded cards in the front.
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  11. 09-26-2016, 01:27 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippe B View Post
    She usually waited half shoe before reuse card
    do you mean half a deck ?
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  12. 09-26-2016, 01:40 PM #12
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    No, I really mean half shoe !
    Second dealer, a guy, was waiting one deck and taking half below.
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    New CSM models are truly random and impossible to play against.
    Old models are as beatable as a one pass R&R.
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