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    My comeback - continued!

    As some of you may have seen I have made a recent comeback to play.

    The first two sessions I played, I managed to get a small (consistent with EV) win the first time, and on my second session I managed a medium-sized win, my best result in about 15 sessions.
    That being said, I still registered my second- and third-lowest end-session results of all time (150+ sessions).

    I went back and played my third session. Same old story. With a max bet of $75x2, I busted out $2000 in double quick time. I did not win a single non-min bet until I was $1300 down - and I didn't do bad at the min bets. Every single double and split failed.

    In my first 100 sessions I had two losses of this magnitude. In my last ten sessions I have had five.

    I'm sorry but I no longer believe that this game is winnable - ever. I'm not willing to lose 15% of my turnover time and time again. $16,000 down the drain since August of last year is enough.
    I.... feel so right doing the Wong thing!!! 9-5! 9-5! 9-5! Every king that screws her makes me feel alive!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeymouse View Post
    As some of you may have seen I have made a recent comeback to play.

    In my first 100 sessions I had two losses of this magnitude. In my last ten sessions I have had five.

    I'm sorry but I no longer believe that this game is winnable - ever. I'm not willing to lose 15% of my turnover time and time again. $16,000 down the drain since August of last year is enough.
    Now you will discover whether you are addicted. You resolve to quit and you return to the tables, you are addicted. I realized I am addicted so I moved to a place more than 3 hours from any casino and it's cut down the temptation significantly, from playing daily to about 2-3 times a month. With age, thinking about a 4 hour drive to Tunica or a 5 hour one to St. Louis in significant truck traffic has helped cut down my playing. I am still on the positive side.

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    You should quit, as I'm sure counting doesn't really work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Now you will discover whether you are addicted. You resolve to quit and you return to the tables, you are addicted. I realized I am addicted so I moved to a place more than 3 hours from any casino and it's cut down the temptation significantly, from playing daily to about 2-3 times a month. With age, thinking about a 4 hour drive to Tunica or a 5 hour one to St. Louis in significant truck traffic has helped cut down my playing. I am still on the positive side.
    If you're playing with an advantage (where it's ultimately a money-making endeavor), then what you call "addiction", I would call a good work ethic.

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    Here's how you can distinguish between an AP and a problem gambler:

    Advantage Player - AP drives to a casino and scouts things out. Said AP doesn't find favorable conditions so he turns around and gets right back in his car to leave.

    Problem Gambler - PG drives to a casino and scouts things out. Conditions are horrible (crowded tables, bad pen, bad rules). PG finds a way to justify playing and sits down to play anyway.

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    One may not be a problem gambler but can be addicted IMO. Sometimes I feel if I do not go scout I may miss something .I would try to make time to do it.

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    I would really like to ask the OP how many hours has he played and what is the end result. It could be he is getting good condition but getting clobbered due to more frequent high counts. If he is not betting optimally along with not playing enough hours To get to multiple N-zero he will certainly have a chance of losing still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryemo View Post
    Here's how you can distinguish between an AP and a problem gambler:

    Advantage Player - AP drives to a casino and scouts things out. Said AP doesn't find favorable conditions so he turns around and gets right back in his car to leave.

    Problem Gambler - PG drives to a casino and scouts things out. Conditions are horrible (crowded tables, bad pen, bad rules). PG finds a way to justify playing and sits down to play anyway.
    Good categories - I would probably add a middle category of "hobbyist AP" (that I would put myself in). I approach it as a hobby/game of skill that trumps my other hobbles that cost me (e.g., sports-card collecting, pistol competition, etc.). So I might be guilty on occasion of playing a not-so-good game if I've set aside the time to do it and I can still play it at some advantage (i.e., maybe a full table - but otherwise a good game).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy View Post
    If you're playing with an advantage (where it's ultimately a money-making endeavor), then what you call "addiction", I would call a good work ethic.
    Addiction is when you cannot survive without it. The end result of making money or not has got nothing to do with it. Many people in many professions are unaware that they are addicted to their work until they retire or quit or lose their job and are unable to do anything else. Studies show that these folks die earlier if not going into severe depression.

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    I can understand where big daddy is coming from. Some people just play with advantage as long as it is not a terrible game. I go out of my way to get a good game sometimes over doing it .Wonging out too many times just to make the game good/playable. Going back to the same place even if i am getting some heat disregarding a chance of getting BO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeymouse View Post
    I'm sorry but I no longer believe that this game is winnable - ever.
    Then trust your belief and act on it!

    Then there is no value for anyone to suggest otherwise and I have no interest in participating in a pity party.

    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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