Comparison of different counts

[Poolpro2013]

Someone recently posted a link showing the different counts and how they compare to one another. I cannot remember where I saw it. If that person is reading this, could you please repost the link? Thanks

[Three]

Is this what you were looking for?
https://qfit.com/book/ModernBlackjackPage172.htm

[Freightman]

Someone recently posted a link showing the different counts and how they compare to one another. I cannot remember where I saw it. If that person is reading this, could you please repost the link? Thanks

These things are available all over the place. Here is one.

https://www.qfit.com/card-counting.htm

[Three]

What about this:

Brh-0 is Red 7 (with all sevens counted as half values)

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Here the SCORE's as promised. The game is 6 deck, 75% pen, S17, DAS, DOA, no RSA, no surrender.

For the play-all case, I have used optimal 1-16 spreads, this will exercise both the PE in negative counts and the BC in positive counts. It is not intended to be too realistic because you would have to have rocks in your head to play this way, just look at the size of the ekb (unit bet x 1.5 x ekb = 5% ROR bank), and N0 is not too crash hot either.

Now the other one is a play only roughly Hi-Lo TC of +1 or above, spreading 1-8, resulting in approximately 26-27% of rounds being played. There are those who don't like to compare Wonging schemes by equalizing the playing percentages, but I am unconvinced there is a better alternative. In any case, given the method, the comparision is valid. The only caveat is that these were generated from the same SBA result files as the play-all cases, the unit bet was simply set to zero for all TC/RC less than the Wong point. These were not separate sims
with leaving points set, so technically these sims correspond to a player jumping in and out the same shoe at will. But again, I do not think it affects the ranking all that much.

Spread: 1-16 Play All Rounds

System :_______ ekb_DI___N0___Unit Bet_EV/100(SCORE)_SD/100
Brh-I/Brh-II (t): 1066_5.51_32952 | $ 9.38___ $30.35 ____ $550.88
AOII/Halves: __ 1070_5.50_33088 | $ 9.35___ $30.22 ____ $549.75
HiOptII/RPC: __ 1066_5.47_33397 | $ 9.38___ $29.94 ____ $547.20
HiOptII(A-side): 1057_5.52_32762 | $ 9.46___ $30.52 ____ $552.48 ***
Brh-II(t,A-side): 1064_5.46_33546 | $ 9.40___ $29.81 ____ $545.98
AOII (A-side):__1076_5.46_33572 | $ 9.29___ $29.79 ____ $545.77
Brh-I (true): __ 1105_5.32_35275 | $ 9.05___ $28.35 ____ $532.46 **
Uston SS(true): 1119_5.31_35514 | $ 8.94___ $28.16 ____ $530.64
Zen: ________ 1092_5.31_35526 | $ 9.16___ $28.15 ____ $530.55
Halves(x2):___ 1113_5.30_35632 | $ 8.99___ $28.06 ____ $529.76
UBZ11 (true):_ 1106_5.28_35833 | $ 9.04___ $27.91 ____ $528.27
RPC: ________ 1107_5.22_36706 | $ 9.04___ $27.24 ____ $521.95
Brh-0 (true):__ 1124_5.22_36749 | $ 8.90___ $27.21 ____ $521.62
TKO (true): ___ 1147_5.13_37939 | $ 8.72___ $26.36 ____ $513.40
Hi-Lo:________ 1174_4.99_40095 | $ 8.52___ $24.94 ____ $499.41
Brh-I/Brh-II(r) : 1144_5.42_34043 | $ 8.74___ $29.37 ____ $541.98 *
Brh-II(r,A-side): 1139_5.37_34695 | $ 8.78___ $28.82 ____ $536.87 *
Brh-I (run):___ 1173_5.22_36670 | $ 8.52___ $27.27 ____ $522.20
UBZ11 (run):__ 1174_5.16_37486 | $ 8.52___ $26.68 ____ $516.50
Uston SS (run): 1213_5.12_38128 | $ 8.24___ $26.23 ____ $512.12
Brh-0 (run):___ 1200_5.08_38705 | $ 8.33___ $25.84 ____ $508.37
K-O (run): ____ 1146_4.97_40561 | $ 8.73___ $24.65 ____ $496.53


SCORES part 2

Spread: 1-8 Backcounting

System:________ ekb_ DI__ N0_ Unit Bet_EV/100(SCORE)_SD/100_ %pl___Wong(RC/TC)
AOII/Halves:____ 223 6.96 20667 | $44.85_ $48.39_____ $695.60 _ 27.41% __ 2
Brh-I/Brh-II(t):__ 225 6.95 20706 | $44.54_ $48.29_____ $694.94 _ 27.29% __ -2
HiOptII/RPC:____ 221 6.91 20945 | $45.27 _ $47.74_____ $690.97 _ 26.25% __ 2
HiOptII (A-side):_ 213 6.98 20524 | $47.02 _ $48.72_____ $698.02 _ 24.83% __ 2 ***
AOII(A-side): ___ 214 6.92 20853 | $46.72 _ $47.95_____ $692.49 _ 25.81% __ 2
Brh-II (t, A-side): 215 6.90 21001 | $46.47 _ $47.62_____ $690.05 _ 25.64% __ -2
Brh-I (true):____ 230 6.81 21557 | $43.47 _ $46.39_____ $681.09 _ 27.27% __ -2 **
Halves(x2): ____ 229 6.78 21763 | $43.66 _ $45.95_____ $677.86 _ 27.41% __ 2
Uston SS (true) : 235 6.77 21805 | $42.56 _ $45.86_____ $677.21 _ 27.89% __ -2
Zen:__________ 218 6.77 21815 | $45.78 _ $45.84_____ $677.05 _ 24.88%__ 2
UBZ11 (true): __ 226 6.73 22053 | $44.33 _ $45.35_____ $673.39 _ 25.61%__ -2
RPC:__________ 226 6.71 22233 | $44.34 _ $44.98_____ $670.65 _ 26.24%__ 2
Brh-0 (true): ___ 233 6.70 22265 | $42.93 _ $44.91_____ $670.17 _ 26.84%__ -2
TKO (true): ____ 231 6.62 22786 | $43.24 _ $43.89_____ $662.48 _ 27.32%__ -3
Hi-Lo: ________ 234 6.48 23842 | $42.82 _ $41.94_____ $647.63 _ 26.66%__ 1
Brh-I/Brh-II(r):_ 253 6.79 21674 | $39.58 _ $46.14_____ $679.25 _ 26.42%__ -6 *
Brh-II (r,A-side): 259 6.75 21965 | $38.63 _ $45.53_____ $674.73 _ 27.14%__ -7 *
Brh-I (run):____ 271 6.53 23432 | $36.91 _ $42.68_____ $653.28 _ 26.42%__ -6
UBZ11 (run): __ 273 6.53 23427 | $36.58 _ $42.69_____ $653.34 _ 27.08%__ -7
Brh-0 (run):___ 255 6.51 23595 | $39.22 _ $42.38 _____ $651.02 _ 26.02%__ -6
Uston SS (run): 268 6.49 23772 | $37.32 _ $42.07 _____ $648.59 _ 26.97%__ -6
K-O (run): ____ 281 6.39 24465 | $35.60 _ $40.88 _____ $639.34 _ 26.02%__ -9

In both cases I have marked with '***' the best overall system, which is HiOpt-II with ace-side count. It even able to beat all three minimial 4-point secondary count combinations. I have also marked with a '**' the best ace-reckoned true count system, which in both cases is true count Brh-I. The other two cases marked with a '*' are the best running count systems, with the running Brh-I/Brh-II secondary count system (a 'pure' running count system) and running Brh-II + ace-side (a pseudo-running count system) being the best running count systems in each case.

[Freightman]

T3
Think you've had a relapse.

[Three]

Okay. I made it look pretty.

[Poolpro2013]

Thanks guys. Exactly what I was looking for. I was listening to Gamblers Book Club podcast and there was an episode interviewing the man who wrote a book on the "bi-count". I don't know much about about it (and haven't researched it yet) but I wanted to see if it is a viable count. It may be labeled as something different on the links listed. Do y'all know much about this?

[Three]

What are the count tags and how is it counted?

[Three]

I just did a google search. Bi-count looks like a waste of time. The things he says indicates either he assumes his market is wannabes that don't know much or he doesn't know squat. To people that are serious players they are laughable. Like doubling and splitting only when it is to your advantage like all systems don't do that yet. Of course they do based on the info the count gathers.

I will reserve judgement until I see what the system is but his rhetoric is that of a snake oil salesman.

[Poolpro2013]

Ok, I'm new to this and don't want to waste time with anything that is bogus. That's why I asked the pros!
I was trying to figure out what it was without purchasing the book. I will leave it alone for now.

[DSchles]

https://www.amazon.com/Bi-Count-Blac.../dp/161658680X

Utter, total bullshit scam. Not worth ten cents.

Don

[Poolpro2013]

No wonder he has never been backed off! They love him

[Stealth]

OK, so which one do you guys think is the best???


Couldn't resist!