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    Disadvantaged by Dealer Misdeal

    Was playing blackjack last night and had situation that I never encountered before. I was second player in five player table. I get queen on my first card, guy on end gets ace on his first card, dealer has six showing. Then he gives first guy his second card, inexplicably skips next three players and puts down an ace on last player's card. This would have been my blackjack. Guy on end was mad too because he wanted a chance at his blackjack. Pit boss was unhelpful but called the manager. Manager said that there was no way to "back up the cards" so that I did not get my blackjack. Her ruling was that the pair of aces on the end stood, then I get the next card and the next two players get the next two cards. Then each player gets to decide whether they want to stay in the hand or get their money back. I get a four, take back my money and leave. Fourth guy gets a 10 as well so guy on end also would have had blackjack.

    It seems to me that because there was no ambiguity about what happened and it was not after a miscommunication between dealer and player about hitting or standing, that I should have gotten my blackjack. Even if the not backing up cards rule technically applied in this situation, given that it was a blackjack, they should have just paid my hand anyway for good customer relations. I find it hard to believe that the manager does not have the discretion to do so.

    Is this just an example of a bad dealer mistake and bad luck or did I get screwed by the casino?


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    Every jurisdiction has a law that says you can't back up any card. You got a freeroll. I hope you pulled your bet back. They were nice about how they handled it. I have seen them try to call it a dead hand. I didn't let them get away with that because I had a really strong hand.

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    I have never seen more than one player skipped, but I have seen
    one player skipped perhaps two dozen times in the past 30 years.
    The principal that was followed of never being able to "back up" a
    card is universal. It was handled perfectly. As was clearly pointed
    out by Tthree, the rare (incorrect) alternative just ain't right !

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    It happens in reverse too. I had a 9, the dealer an up card of 5 and the deal got screwed up, I had a big bet out (TC+2, they discard the exposed inappropriate cards, I get a 2 (instead of a ten I would have received), was asked if I wanted to stay. Only one guy with threw his hand, I doubled, got a 7, dealer made the hand by getting 19.

    its variance. Can't get upset when variance is with other side.

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    Principle!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Principle!!
    Card Counters are mostly a cynical lot whose absurdly narrow focus on
    microscopic e.v. changes (often) precludes taking principled viewpoints.



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    Better! :-)

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    If it's a friend or the main one it's a pal, if it's a ruLE it's a principle.
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    Why does it sound like a intentional mistake ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopgambling View Post
    Why does it sound like a intentional mistake ?
    You think the dealer knew what card came next?

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    The option of getting out of the hand is fairly standard. Sorry, no blackjack. I have seen them pay the table once or twice when heavy bettor made some noise. Don't expect it. Was this a shoe game, jbt? Why are you playing crowded tables?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DatabaseGuy View Post
    You think the dealer knew what card came next?
    during a high count they can screw you. Think preferential shuffling ,same idea. they can peek at it if the dealer really want to.

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    Most thing are not black and white.right?

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