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    Of Academic Interest ?


    Me and two of our top posters here had an extended, extemporaneous, colloquium
    re: the seemingly weird and unexpected things that occur in Blackjack and Span21
    when the penetration is very deep ~ when < ½ deck is all that remains in a shoe.

    I soon recalled where the immortal Peter Griffin, Ph.D.
    published the following query (not verbatim)

    Blackjack. Heads-Up Play.


    You have 22 cards remaining.

    TWELVE Faces and TWO each of:
    Aces, Sevens, Eights, and Nines.
    and ONE each of a Deuce and a Trey.


    A computer generates all possible hands and possible sequences.

    What do you estimate is the advantage for optimal play ?


    What would the Basic Strategist’s edge work out to being ?


    Note: Soft 17 is not possible.

    Note: absence of ranks 4, 5, and 6.

    Responses are encouraged, including

    guesswork and computer simulations.





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    The correct answers will boggle you (and fly in the face of what you know about BJ)

    I will be on the road all week. I will wait awhile before posting the correct answers.

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    You have two eights left in your query and state 8's are totally depleted below. I assume 4's rather than 8's are supposed to be totally depleted. Assuming the fours are depleted and 2 8's remain 10% player edge or maybe a little more.
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    What do you estimate is the advantage for optimal play ?
    Now I have to think like a ploppy? I will need a few drinks in me first.

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    Tthree,

    Much thanx for spotting my typo.

    I have corrected my post.

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    Shoot. I was thinking applying my count to get my EV. If I play better because I know the cards and use the actual deck composition for decisions the advantage is much higher.

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    Really oddball stuff like this belongs in the Advanced/Theory/Math forum.
    "Croyez ceux qui cherchent la vérité, doutez de ceux qui la trouvent." --André Gide

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    "Me and two of our top posters. ..."

    How is it remotely possible that you, who are so careful with language, could possibly write anything as horrific as the above???

    Don


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    Works if his name is Me.
    "Croyez ceux qui cherchent la vérité, doutez de ceux qui la trouvent." --André Gide

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    Sloppy Syntax / grammatical errors are embarrassing.

    I was stooopidly "multi-tasking" ~ imagining that I

    am not a codger, whose cerebral matter is slowly rotting.

    I know my pro-nouns and my con-nouns too. L.O.L.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    How is it remotely possible that you, who are so careful with language, could possibly write anything as horrific as the above???
    Don - Serious question: Why is it "who are" and not "who is," since "you" refers to Flash and is singular?

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