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    Heaven to me Vegas trip report

    I owe a trip report, but remember I go there for a mixture of fun and BJ. My table style is to also have fun. I meet my best friend and we never stop having fun. There will be things I must leave out for obvious reasons. We played right away at a 2 deck 25 min. game and the big cards and some Aces came out right away. We lost and quickly left the game since we wanted to play in plus counts as much as possible. this was our 2 deck strategy for all 6 days we played. We kept track of our wins/losses when leaving the table early which we did 14 times. Since high cards came out during this time, it only makes sense we probably won. Overall we DID NOT. We were down early playing 2 deck, 25 min. and 6 deck 10 min. We never had a plus session. We didn’t care. We know variance and it was a short test. We won pretty good before the day was over and were plus 400 so we hit the strip and walked around with a beer.
    We ate at Big Al’s Oyster Bar at the Orleans and had many Coronas.
    Day 2 we moved around scouting and saw there were now 6/5 games where we played last year at the Trop. We had so much fun there the past 2 years and now it’s over. The tables were mostly empty where last year they were at least half full and buzzing with laughter. The Aria used to have some good games and they are 6/5. MGM had a bunch of 6/5 games. I noticed a lot of tables had nothing written on the felt so I would ask. I wanted to hear them say 6/5. I asked if they had any real BJ games. We did play some 2 deck 25 and 5 min. We spread 1-8 on 25 min. and 1-16 on 5 min. and never had any heat. We always have fun with the dealers and pits while leaving when we should, usually within 25-30 minutes. The 5 min. table we hung around for 2 hours once and drank Coronas and Jameson. +450 and we felt variance got us again.
    Day 3 was more of the same and we lost. We played in some good counts and dealer BJs and draws kicked our butt. We review play after every session while moving around and we agreed we did everything right without fear of heat. – 700
    Day 4 included one of my favorites El Cortez. No heat for us. I can’t go into our cover, but we can enjoy a moderate win. We also played a station casino and won a little there. +500. We had dinner at Gallagher’s in NYNY and had a beer with Mary.
    Day 5 got murdered in 2 ways. We lost with early high cards and left tables. Excuses to leave early during the high negative were easy and we did it with jokes and fun. We lost our small bets, but should have at least won most of them. We got a real good count at a 2 deck 25 min. game and lost some 8 unit bets, 2 were double downs. -900
    Day 6 we began losing right away. Finally we got a +11 count in a 2 deck game and figured this was our gift for playing only in good situations. I couldn’t wait to get more chips and lay it in. I was going to push it out there. For 4 straight hands it remained a good plus. 8 units a hand and 2 double downs. 1200 risked and 1200 lost! My buddy lost 400. For all those who might expect a good report I gotta tell you, so did I. we had enough money to go home with a small bank roll, but we lost our first year in 10 years. It was a surprise to us. I have read about variance and didn’t believe it could be such a streak or happen to me. We lost money, but we enjoyed Vegas and had fun. After a ball game we always enjoyed the beers. After we lost a game we had beers anyway and had fun. The beers just taste better after a win.
    I hope we get the same opportunities, games and counts next year. There are still good games and great times. Wishing it to all of you.

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    Nice trip report. You can believe you will hit bad runs no matter how good your system is. My system is about as strong as you can get. I had one trip and for 3 days every time I got monster counts I would get 2 20's and the dealer always seemed to have a 5 or 6 up. Almost every single time the dealer drew out to 21 on me. The losses were bad but not as bad as you might think. I had some winning at small advantage to put a dent in the losses every day. Of course the small advantage bets were more frequent. On day 4 when I actually started winning my 20's against a 5 or 6 in monster counts it felt really weird. I had been having such long odds losses for so long when the expected outcome happened it didn't feel right for a while. I made a bigger dent in the losses before going home when I started crushing the monster counts. It was still a pretty big loss but it was quickly erased with the usual wins. As bad as it felt I count myself lucky it wasn't much worse. Fortunately I wasn't doubling or splitting much at max bet and I made some BJ's. I have had worse losses solely based on the outcome of 4 rounds in the 3 days that had me split to 4 hands on one spot with a couple doubles and double on my other spot at max bet just to have 8 max bets swept off the felt each time when the dealer outdrew all of my hands. Without that 32 max bet loss on those 4 rounds I would have won a lot that trip (twice EV). As it turned out I lost almost as much as I would have won.
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    Of course we know that in the "short run" anything can happen, (and often will)
    but my reaction to your trip report is one of shock that you drink while you play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    but my reaction to your trip report is one of shock that you drink while you play.
    Having a few beers while playing - I would put that in the category of essential cover for Vegas DD games. Obviously this must be kept under control and well within the tolerance limits of the individual. However, I would venture to say that a regular heavy beer drinker could easily consume 4 light beers in a 90 minute session without any loss of accuracy (This would put his BAC at about .5). The sugar content in the beer can actually enhance the focus and energy level of a seasoned beer drinker when he's working on his first couple of the day. How do I know all of this? I heard it from a friend ....

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    I'm assuming you mean .05 instead of .5 (lucky to be alive at that point.) I would say that a 90 minute session, on a Vegas DD game, would erode any cover you're hoping a few beers would provide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcallister3200 View Post
    I'm assuming you mean .05 instead of .5 (lucky to be alive at that point.) I would say that a 90 minute session, on a Vegas DD game, would erode any cover you're hoping a few beers would provide.
    Oops yes - of course . 05 BAC. And yes agree that 90 minutes is the outer limits of Vegas DD, but not undoable with other cover tactics...

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    It was hard to "confess" losing and feel bad I shocked my friend Flash with my drinking. I never get drunk. The variance lesson was my shock. I really didn't think it could ever get me like that and I always thought when others told their story they just messed up and played poorly. I wish I could detail more because much of what I could would be funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baberuth View Post
    I always thought when others told their story they just messed up and played poorly.
    You should know better with my play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baberuth View Post
    It was hard to "confess" losing and feel bad I shocked my friend Flash with my drinking. I never get drunk. The variance lesson was my shock. I really didn't think it could ever get me like that and I always thought when others told their story they just messed up and played poorly. I wish I could detail more because much of what I could would be funny.
    Ask a dealer - What is the most common phrase you hear from the players all day? Their answer will always be: "unbelievable". That's what you need to beat each and every time you play...It never let's up....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baberuth View Post
    I shocked my friend Flash with my drinking. I never get drunk.
    A beer an hour is one thing, but you were even drinking Jameson's Irish Whiskey.

    In my youth a "shot and a beer" (consumed in rapid succession) we termed a boiler maker.

    A very fast route to inebriation. So many drinkers minimize their drunkenness. A pity.

    I am a (legal) marijuana consumer and a drinker of Polish (Buffalo Grass) Vodka; but

    early in life I learned TWO valuable lessons:

    A. NEVER compromise your BJ play with any degree of intoxication.

    B. "All of Life is 6 to 5 against."


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