See the top rated post in this thread. Click here

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 13 of 17

Thread: http://www.bj21.com/

  1. #1


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No

    http://www.bj21.com/

    HI Guys!

    Would BJ21.com be worthwhile to sign up for? Is it still recent and up to date? (I will still remain the biggest fan of this site)

    Thank You

  2. #2
    Banned or Suspended
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Eastern U S A
    Posts
    6,830


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No

    The Free Pages are not.
    The Green Chip pages are.
    But are anything but free !

  3. #3


    0 out of 1 members found this post helpful. Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    HI Guys!

    Would BJ21.com be worthwhile to sign up for? Is it still recent and up to date? (I will still remain the biggest fan of this site)

    Thank You
    its great, has lots of great stuff in its archives, the BJ Insider is great. The paid pages are more like a graduate class and while you can read the discussions, if you dare try to enter (post) then you risk a very nasty group that will humiliate you far worse than on this forum. Also, unlike here,there are more proponents of the dimple counts there.

  4. #4
    Banned or Suspended
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Eastern U S A
    Posts
    6,830


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    "BJ Insider is great."
    Surely you jest ! BJ Insider ! ROTFLMAO



  5. #5


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    its great, has lots of great stuff in its archives, the BJ Insider is great. The paid pages are more like a graduate class and while you can read the discussions, if you dare try to enter (post) then you risk a very nasty group that will humiliate you far worse than on this forum. Also, unlike here,there are more proponents of the dimple counts there.
    It's a good site and a lot of good info from serious players. But I agree with Z that it's a pretty tough crowd, so don't post a question until you have done at least a little due diligence on the subject.

    That's why I use a different username over there (bet you can't guess it). I knew I'd get blasted by the pros over there and I didn't want to taint my name on both sites. Although at this point, I don't think I have much left to lose anyway

  6. #6


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    its great, has lots of great stuff in its archives, the BJ Insider is great.
    ZeeBabar,

    I figured, what the heck, and subscribed to both BJ21 and BJInsider a few years back. The Green Chip forums on BJ21 provide a wealth of information (who cares if anyone is perceived as being mean, sometimes posters deserve what they get), not to mention I have found the CBJN monthly report to be quite useful, although not always up to date, nor providing information that some might want to protect, and thus not disclose.

    BJInsider, OTOH, has been an absolute waste of my money. Talk about Negative EV!!!! I would have rather put that my subscription payment toward 1 hand in a H17, 6:5, D9, NDAS, NS, CSM dealt game.
    "Your honor, with all due respect: if you're going to try my case for me, I wish you wouldn't lose it."

    Fictitious Boston Attorney Frank Galvin (Paul Newman - January 26, 1925 - September 26, 2008) in The Verdict, 1982, lambasting Trial Judge Hoyle (Milo Donal O'Shea - June 2, 1926 - April 2, 2013) - http://imdb.com/title/tt0084855/

  7. #7


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    HI Guys!

    Would BJ21.com be worthwhile to sign up for? Is it still recent and up to date? (I will still remain the biggest fan of this site)

    Thank You
    A membership at BJ21.com is absolutely worth it! When I first started counting, I didn't belong to any forums for the first year or so, but BJ21.com was the first site I joined; I have to say that I learned more within a few weeks on BJ21 by absorbing information from older posts/archives, than I learned in the previous year on my own. There's a wealth of knowledge over there with contributions from many serious players.

    I've also networked and met with a few posters from that site and have found it to be EXTREMELY beneficial. So in my opinion, the small monthly fee is very +EV. I agree with Flash though, there isn't much going on in the free pages. If you join, get a GC membership. Also, CBJN is definitely worth a look too if you travel to play every now and then.
    Last edited by Ryemo; 08-12-2016 at 08:13 AM.

  8. #8


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryemo View Post
    Also, CBJN is definitely worth a look too if you travel to play every now and then.
    Keep in mind that CBJN is simply a guide with no guarantees of accuracy. I just came back from a quickie organized cheap flight scenario to hot Vegas. Though accurate in a general sense, The biggest error seems to be poor reporting of rules which leads to erroneous house edges. Also, unless I made an error of casino name, my fastest backoff ever came from a Vegas store not even listed. Just happened to be very close to what is referred to as a sweat shop, but found a non sweated high spread dd game.

    Regardless, the info is generally good, but should be supplemented by networking info. It is worth the fee when info is needed.

  9. #9


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Keep in mind that CBJN is simply a guide with no guarantees of accuracy. I just came back from a quickie organized cheap flight scenario to hot Vegas. Though accurate in a general sense, The biggest error seems to be poor reporting of rules which leads to erroneous house edges. Also, unless I made an error of casino name, my fastest backoff ever came from a Vegas store not even listed. Just happened to be very close to what is referred to as a sweat shop, but found a non sweated high spread dd game.

    Regardless, the info is generally good, but should be supplemented by networking info. It is worth the fee when info is needed.
    Agree completely. I recently offered Al to update a region for CBJN thats pretty far outside of my home-base, but part of my travel rotation. Man... The report was waaay off. But to be fair, that region had not been updated for about almost two years. A lot changed since the last report. Aside that region, I've found many inaccuracies compared to the report, but it's still a good place to start.

  10. #10
    Banned or Suspended
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Eastern U S A
    Posts
    6,830


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Galvin View Post
    "BJInsider, has been an absolute waste of my money."
    That it is, and a bag of (stale) chips !

  11. #11


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    In my opinion, Ryemo is the poster child for how a new AP could and should develop into a skilled player. I recall when he first joined BJ21 (2-3 years ago?) and was learning the ropes. In that short time, he became a well-respected and knowledgeable member of BJ21. He did a lot of studying - reading books, buying software, and reading the invaluable BJ21 archives. He asked appropriate and though-provoking questions, but never asked to be spoon-fed with things that could be found simply by opening Wong's "Professional Blackjack" and referring to one of the charts or tables. I have the utmost respect for his knowledge, intelligence, and AP abilities.

    OTOH, there was another BJ21 member who joined about 4 years ago. He did the complete opposite of Ryemo and was ridiculed on BJ21, called a troll many times, and finally left. He behaves similarly on some car forums and has been ridiculed there as well. I won't mention any names in this case.

    The only downside of BJ21, in my opinion, is the forum software is very outdated, reminiscent of something from the DOS days.

    I agree that BJInsider is a waste of money.

  12. #12


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Appreciate the kind words, 21forme.

    It's only been almost two years since I've joined BJ21, but I've learned so much there.

  13. #13


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    In my opinion, Ryemo is the poster child for how a new AP could and should develop into a skilled player. I recall when he first joined BJ21 (2-3 years ago?) and was learning the ropes. In that short time, he became a well-respected and knowledgeable member of BJ21. He did a lot of studying - reading books, buying software, and reading the invaluable BJ21 archives. He asked appropriate and though-provoking questions, but never asked to be spoon-fed with things that could be found simply by opening Wong's "Professional Blackjack" and referring to one of the charts or tables. I have the utmost respect for his knowledge, intelligence, and AP abilities.

    OTOH, there was another BJ21 member who joined about 4 years ago. He did the complete opposite of Ryemo and was ridiculed on BJ21, called a troll many times, and finally left. He behaves similarly on some car forums and has been ridiculed there as well. I won't mention any names in this case.

    The only downside of BJ21, in my opinion, is the forum software is very outdated, reminiscent of something from the DOS days.

    I agree that BJInsider is a waste of money.
    Some guys simply develop a passion, which is fed by a voracious desire to improve oneself. This includes absorption of all kinds if material. Ryemo displayed those attributes, and which I noted in my waning days at bj21. He has displayed those qualities here. He kind of reminds me of..........me. i do get the strong impression that he is much younger than me, which in itself creates different approaches - the ultimate goal, of course, is to win.

    I believe he is one of those individuals who can create golden nuggets of info, for all to absorb. It will also be interesting to view his continuing development.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Oldster: FYI re BJ21
    By Oldster in forum Blackjack Main
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-21-2002, 12:17 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

About Blackjack: The Forum

BJTF is an advantage player site based on the principles of comity. That is, civil and considerate behavior for the mutual benefit of all involved. The goal of advantage play is the legal extraction of funds from gaming establishments by gaining a mathematic advantage and developing the skills required to use that advantage. To maximize our success, it is important to understand that we are all on the same side. Personal conflicts simply get in the way of our goals.