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    Bank Loan of 10000(€-£-$)

    Girls and Boys!

    If you were confident in your skills when comes down to card counting (you have been practicing day and night for 2 years on Verite and other apps and softwares) would you consider applying for a bank loan of a starting bankroll of 10 grand for playing blackjack? Would it be a smart decision?

    Thanks for any input!

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    I would advise against it.
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    No. With a $10k bank roll, playing at $5 or $10 minimum tables is a tough grind with risk of losing it all. Maybe, if there were casinos near where you lived and with good games so you have no travel expenses. Perhaps wonging in on positive counts and out on positive counts.

    I would suggest you play whenever you save up $300 dollars, go and get actual playing in a casino experience before you plunge in. All the sims and playing on software is not going to give you much.

    It's like someone reading an auto manual, checking out all the "how to drive" videos and believing they are ready to drive a manual car in rush hour traffic in Los Angeles or New York. You got to actually drive on some empty back roads and parking lots before you are ready for the highways.

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    Banks are not going to lend you money to gamble. Further, it seems you have no casino seasoned oractice - simply software practice. Your dims, assuming you've one them, likely do not include repayment of principle and interest on your loan. Could go on and on, but the fact is if you need to borrow to play, 10k will not get you into quality games and you're looking for trouble.

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    NO.

    Bank loans require 100% payback. Advantage Blackjack has a probability, although small, of losing all of your money. Should this occur the bank is not going to be impressed.

    Think of the blackjack bankroll as equity in a new company. You have a good plan and technical ability but you must prove it in the marketplace to see if you can make money. If the casinos do not offer good games then all your planning and skill may not help and you may lose money. Point is, equity is risk capital to pursue a venture, as is a blackjack bankroll. Do not match an absolute requirement to repay with a probability of being able to repay. Not good business.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    If there are good games around with decent rules?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    If there are good games around with decent rules?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    If there are good games around with decent rules?

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    Even the best games will not do it. Just borrow or save up $500, get casino experience. Play in a wonging style, enter a good game at TC+2, leave if TC drops below Zero. Bet $20 at TC2, and up.

    you have to try it out before you go getting a loan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    Girls and Boys!

    If you were confident in your skills when comes down to card counting (you have been practicing day and night for 2 years on Verite and other apps and softwares) would you consider applying for a bank loan of a starting bankroll of 10 grand for playing blackjack? Would it be a smart decision?

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    $10K is too small a bankroll. To be full time player, I think you need at least $100K.

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    $10k is recreational. $50k, you're getting serious.

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    Addiction calling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Addiction calling.
    Disagree, at least at this point. Opening post suggests that his play to date has been on software. Also suggests no bankroll to speak of, and further, he thinks that his non seasoned simulated skills are sufficient to make money.

    He has a lot to learn. I do know if 1 situation from a few years ago, where a bankrolled player supplied 10k to a learning player, which had a time limit for repayment and included some sort of interest payment, as well as play and spread controls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Disagree, at least at this point. Opening post suggests that his play to date has been on software. Also suggests no bankroll to speak of, and further, he thinks that his non seasoned simulated skills are sufficient to make money.

    He has a lot to learn. I do know if 1 situation from a few years ago, where a bankrolled player supplied 10k to a learning player, which had a time limit for repayment and included some sort of interest payment, as well as play and spread controls.
    Maybe you are right. I wonder if people think of an AP as a glamorous profession to get in. My neighbor, a 40 something lady, saved up $10k and borrowed another $5k to go full time to become a Dental Assistant. Others borrow to learn some other profession. I wonder how old the OP is and whether he would share why he wants to pursue this profession.

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