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    card counting coaching

    hello everyone, I am a former high stakes professional blackjack player who would like to offer individualized coaching on how to count cards using hi-lo for $15 / hr. My services include drills, consultation / planning for casino trips (evaluating the strength of various games, constructing bet spreads, trip itineraries etc.) and skill checks via webcam to ensure that you are casino ready.

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    An accomplished counter who would not settle for $15 an hour at the casino, willing to teach someone for $15 per hour?

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    ZeeBabar describes himself as "accomplished" !
    What a joke that is. Will vanity ever cease to be
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    My most SINCERE apology for misreading ZeeBabar's post.

    Indeed, I fully agree with his comment.

    If he is "accomplished" his time is worth far more than $15 an hour.

    Of course, a comprehensive course in Hi-Lo takes next to no time at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post

    ZeeBabar describes himself as "accomplished" !
    What a joke that is. Will vanity ever cease to be.
    He was referrindpg go the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    hello everyone, I am a former high stakes professional blackjack player
    of course, stakes have nothing to do with skill level, but, just curious, why did you quit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharky View Post
    of course, stakes have nothing to do with skill level, but, just curious, why did you quit?
    Not so much quit as temporarily out of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    Not so much quit as temporarily out of money.
    So you are going to teach how to run out of money also? Seems in-congruent to the problem. As the old adage says, "those who can do and those who can't teach"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    Not so much quit as temporarily out of money.
    How did that happen? Lemme guess, too many bad sports bets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    Not so much quit as temporarily out of money.
    OK, the response about being out of money has been assumed to be a measure of OP abilities, discipline and playing style, without being properly vetted. In fact, I posted a response that called his credentials into questions also.


    OP answered the question of why he quit with too limited information. We have no idea if he quit (ran out of money) due to a death in his family, a medical emergency, or he was robbed. We just jumped to the conclusion that he was a scamming idiot. And he may be...?

    However, the diatribes of "thou shall not ever charge for instructions" and "I can teach you HiLo in 12 minutes” are all bull shit. We have ALL paid for instruction via books, videos, software or other means and it is blatantly hypocritical to suggest that others should not seek assistance from ANY source they feel needed.


    I would add that the technical knowledge about card counting is rudimentary and easy to learn, but harder to master the skill, and the execution of that skill is of more importance. Combined, they must be done in context to the myriad of casinos they might play. Your 12 minute training will not get that job done.


    Let me come clean, I own and operate a website that promotes mentoring and various software tools on blackjack and other AP ventures for a fee, so this is my biased view. I do not suggest my qualifications rise to the top of the known advantage players but I do believe my qualifications and experiences are well suited to help others in a wide range of advantage plays.


    I do not engage in the "which count is better debate", as I have had people come to me that are already competent in various level 2, 3 count systems looking for assistance in more advanced ways. If a newbie comes, then I recommend HiLo while educating them about the other systems and suggesting if their involvement with advantage play progresses to level of “professional” then they should research and consider other more advanced systems. In fact, more difficult systems are needed for a wide variety of other advantage plays.


    I am currently mentoring some half dozen people or small teams and they are certainly capable of providing a “report card” on the value.


    I am also a member of various forums (some are free and some charge like this one (another scam artist…LOL)) and I answer questions and post opinions to member inquiries. I believe this is a part of giving back and, selfishly, keeps me in touch with the advantage world and its people.


    While I truly resent the implications put forth in this thread, if these activities relegate me to a “Scum Bag” or a “Scam Artist” then I am your man.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    ...However, the diatribes of "thou shall not ever charge for instructions" and "I can teach you HiLo in 12 minutes” are all bull shit. We have ALL paid for instruction via books, videos, software or other means and it is blatantly hypocritical to suggest that others should not seek assistance from ANY source they feel needed...
    Actually, in 100% honesty I've never spent a penny on a product, tutor, or forum. When I learned it was very limited internet information and I basically figured most everything out on my own... Connecting some dots on forums with FREE memberships and posts. I have bought probably 7-8 books but that was AFTER I had a winning game and I wanted to read them anyways to see if I missed anything or more/less for the stories/experiences, not the counting knowledge. I've never bought any software, never paid for a membership to any site, never paid someone to teach me, etc. Maybe this is what gives me a bit of the "do it yourself" mentality, perhaps. I guess I feel because I compiled all the info in to those articles anyone who starts now should have a LIGHT YEARS head start on where I started. i.e. I turned out alright and I didn't have 1/10th of the information in those, so anyone else starting out now should be able to do it easily with those and the other free information available (such as me tutoring for free). To add to this I still think there's tremendous value in tutoring to a new player (paid or not), but my bigger beef with the OP was his qualification and advertising to a forum where newbies would see and have the potential to be mislead.
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    The problem with that is I can teach you Hi-Lo in about 12 minutes for free and then for the cost of a book or two you can go beyond that, although at $15 an hour that's a bargain compared to people hustling to teach nothing more than Hi-Lo for considerably more.

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    I believe that, if I were to hire a coach, it would include watching me play and calling my mistakes, giving me advice on bankroll management, attire, etiquette, etc... As Tarzan says, learning the basics takes minutes. Memorizing basic strategy a few hours. Followed by weeks of exercises on CVBJ, one hour a day. But a coach can definitely bring useful things to the table -pun intended- that you could not figure out on your own.

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    The problem with that is I can teach you Hi-Lo in about 12 minutes for free and then for the cost of a book or two you can go beyond that,
    Sure, you can teach yourself. That is how I learned, mostly through forums and personal experience at the tables. The information is out there. But the problem is, you don't know what you don't know. Hiring a coach can be a good way to ameliorate the learning curve. A lot of people would rather spend $15 than invest hours of their time researching to try to find out what they need to learn next. There is a very high skill ceiling in advantage gambling. It could take someone years of stumbling around in the darkness to learn what I could teach them in days or weeks.

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