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    Need a down and dirty CVCX sim.

    Out of town where the sole shoe game has been replaced with a primarily centre cut DD game. Didn't bother with ny computer as I can sim 6 deck games in my head.

    Rules are H17, DAS, 3-2 BJ, DA2. Min 25 max 500
    Centre cut heads up, what is SCORE on 25-250 spread. What is SCORE playing 1 spot with 1 other player playing 2.

    1 dealer giving 75% cut. What is SCORE on same spreads. This is a general geograohic area of about an hour between stores and I will be back here on Monday. Thanks.

    Silly me - halves full indices
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    Having trouble posting a screenshot of the CVCX page.

    The basic stats for the 50% pen are: Avg bet: $60.54, win/hour: $62.89, std dev/rd: $110.00, SCORE: 32.68, CE: 28.31, N0: 30,597

    The basic stats for the 75% pen are: Avg bet: $58.88, win/hour: $113.21, std dev/rd: $106.45, SCORE: 113.11, CE: 61.71, N0: 8,841

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    They are tolerating your 10 to 1 spread ?
    They will soon move the cut card to nada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post

    They are tolerating your 10 to 1 spread ?
    They will soon move the cut card to nada.
    Don't think so - going to push the envelope a bit harder when I return. I'm pretty sure there's still tolerance. Played 6 hours, 60% heads up, max 3 spots totally played all night, approx 1 hour with the 75% dealer. If I'd only left 5 minutes sooner, 2k win. Left with 1 k win. Would have stayed, but they changed cards - I was getting tired and didn't want to wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy View Post
    Having trouble posting a screenshot of the CVCX page.

    The basic stats for the 50% pen are: Avg bet: $60.54, win/hour: $62.89, std dev/rd: $110.00, SCORE: 32.68, CE: 28.31, N0: 30,597

    The basic stats for the 75% pen are: Avg bet: $58.88, win/hour: $113.21, std dev/rd: $106.45, SCORE: 113.11, CE: 61.71, N0: 8,841
    Appreciate the info - very helpful - will help me plan my next attack.

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    maybe since they lowered the max from 2500 to 500 they leave it at 50 percent.. usually it goes to 25 percent pen with the sloppy dealer dealing 35 cards only. I played the 35 card game 2x25 to 2x2500 and got flyerd even though I don't think they do that much flyering in that area.


    hit the location on the head right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallcapgrowth View Post
    maybe since they lowered the max from 2500 to 500 they leave it at 50 percent.. usually it goes to 25 percent pen with the sloppy dealer dealing 35 cards only. I played the 35 card game 2x25 to 2x2500 and got flyerd even though I don't think they do that much flyering in that area.


    hit the location on the head right?
    Nope, but you're only about 200 miles away.

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    Hmmmm new game just put in
    ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallcapgrowth View Post
    Hmmmm new game just put in
    ..
    Just to be. Lear, it's not the 200 miles north of me - dont think you'd be interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy View Post
    Having trouble posting a screenshot of the CVCX page.

    The basic stats for the 50% pen are: Avg bet: $60.54, win/hour: $62.89, std dev/rd: $110.00, SCORE: 32.68, CE: 28.31, N0: 30,597

    The basic stats for the 75% pen are: Avg bet: $58.88, win/hour: $113.21, std dev/rd: $106.45, SCORE: 113.11, CE: 61.71, N0: 8,841
    Not sure if you're still playing these games, but it occurred to me that I left out a valuable piece of info for these sims:

    For the 50% pen game you begin increasing your bet at +1 and reach max bet at +4

    For the 75% pen game you begin increasing your bet at +1 and reach max bet at +7

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    Are you sure for heads up play is score of 32 , I don't think so.with his spread. Of course i could be very wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopgambling View Post
    Are you sure for heads up play is score of 32 , I don't think so.with his spread. Of course i could be very wrong!
    Yep - pretty sure the sim is correct. Keep in mind that it's only a 50% pen DD game. Pen is everything.

    As a sanity check, you can refer to BJA3 SCORE chart on page 156. The SCORE for a 50% pen DD game using Hi-lo (I18) and spreading 1-8 is 22.6. So it appears reasonable that a 1-10 spread plus the additional power of the counting method (Halves with full indexes) gets you to a SCORE of 32.

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    In BjA 3 Its sim with 2 others playing. I am not gonna bother posting the SCORE.( i already know the SCORE) Heads up should change it by a lot ,Remember the rule of 11.
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