Big casino with a lot of shoe games. I'd like to Wong in and Wong out as much as possible without getting the boot. When the count gets bad, do you just grab your chips and go (which aggravates the dealer who may need smaller denominations) or do you color up? Do you immediately start back-counting another table(s) or do you hang out at the craps table or slots to make yourself less conspicuous? Just looking for tips how the experts do it.
You have to read the situation, do an act, etc. one way is to take a break leave the chips, wait till the dealer is in the middle of a round, pick up chips and leave. He would not want to stop plays to color you up or expect you to wait. I sometimes pull my money back, clutch my phone, tell the dealer to go ahead without me, pretend to talk till the round gets started then holster my phone, pick up my chips and head to the door.
Coloring up eats up too much time and attracts too much attention. When I know I'm getting ready to exit a table, I start pocketing chips, even if it's a lot of chips. I don't make it look as if I'm trying to hide something (like you would when you rathole). I just start stuffing green chips in my pocket; usually $200 at a time. If someone mentions it, just tell them that green is your lucky color, so you'd like to hang on to quarters. Once you have most of the chips in your pocket and only have a small handful left, swiftly take off once you bust a hand and the dealer is busy completing the remainder of the round.
Depends like everything else;Originally Posted by Cardguy
If you are at a local spot playing rated I wouldn't be a nuisance. If you are on the road playing as a refusal who gives a shit.
2 things you can do if you are playing green chips before wonging out is ask:
a.)Tell the dealer when you win $50 bets to give you black and tuck them in your pocket instantly, or
b.) just buy in light say 5-8 min. bets and when you leave with chips it isn't a huge deal because you either
a.) have an unknown amount of black chips, or
b.) you wonged out so quick that you may of only gained a few chips .
If you walk up to a table with < $1,000 in green in the tray chances are there is a table fill on the way anyways, and in that case the pit would tell you to take the green with you because they would more than likely be over loaded.
As for back counting immediately after wonging out; If you made plays that you think the optimal next move would be craps or poker so be it, this is AP dependent. Most people know when they've pushed it for the night and need to play another game, or take a break on that shift in general.
There is no glory in practice, but without practice there is no glory . -Unknown
It is the dealers job to know how many black chips he gave you and report this number accurately to the Floor. I wouldn't assume you are fooling anyone. That said, not everyone is good at their job.
Last edited by Three; 02-09-2016 at 09:33 AM.
my post was not with regards to rat-holing chips in an attempt to be rated at having a lower win then you really have . My post was with regards to moving on to the next table as soon as the OP hits his target for a Wong out, with as little amount of chips as possible if he were to go that route, strictly for convenience purposes ...
There is no glory in practice, but without practice there is no glory . -Unknown
Correct.
But not directly relevant. The goal is avoiding a "lifetime win" backoff, or "session win/loss" heat/backoffs.
If I win $10,000 in 6 different pits at a huge casino, that might not get noticed, while a single $10,000 score is getting noticed.
The Cash Cow.
To the OP,
Just grab chips and leave.
Just. Walk. Away.
If the dealer says "can I color you up?" you are GONE before they finish the sentence. If you have a few handfuls, stuff some in your pockets during a round, then leave with the rest.
The Cash Cow.
if you are at a big casino with a lot of shoe games, you are very lucky. With the exception of single deck or double deck blackjack, a lot of the casinos in Las Vegas have converted to constant shuffling machines. I personally refuse to play at tables with the CSM's. While there is no mathematical or scientific reason to "table hop",I personally interrupt my play at a $10 minimum table after winning $200-$250 by either changing tables, or if the casino is very busy, sitting out 2 to 3 deals, just in order to take me out of the sequence for a few deals. Of course, someone could also argue, the same thing is true if a new player sits down at the table or a current player leaves the table.
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