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    100% playing efficiency?

    Hey all,

    I recently reread Uston's chapter where he was using the Comptuer George to play blackjack and was wondering whether there was any information on a count and indexes that would have 100% playing efficiency (or close to that as possible).

    I understand that every card that comes out would have to be tracked individually and there would be many variables, but is there a way to work it out, or is that information freely published or available anywhere?

    This is not for my actual play, this is purely a speculative question..

    Thanks

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    Look up a thread on this site called Glockenspiel, or at least close to that spelling. The Tarzan count is either at, or close to 100 PE. The thread itself is very interesting.

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    Lots of people will answer you , there are many counts that tries to approach a 1.0 pe, the gordon count with many side count, column counts , tarzan count, and what tthree's uses, I just use Hi Lo and " Get a Buddy To Help Count"

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    Freightman,

    IIRC, Tarzan's thread title was Glitzensplizzle on my Glockenschpiel (or something like that).

    https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/sh...y-glockenspiel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Galvin View Post
    Freightman,

    IIRC, Tarzan's thread title was Glitzensplizzle on my Glockenschpiel (or something like that).
    It was an interesting thread - it tingled my glock.

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    Peter Griffin, Ph.D. found that in actual play 80% was the maximum (S.D.) P.E.

    See: "The Theory of BlackJack" [5th or 6th ed.]

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    sefwow,

    There is the Gordon Count which,
    if used, with the many Side-Counts,
    will deliver virtually perfect play.


    Re: Gordon w/ All Side Counts


    • Subject: Re: Gordon w/ All Side Counts
    • From: Abdul Jalib <[email protected]>
    • Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 21:17:19 PST
    • Newsgroups: rec.gambling.blackjack.moderated
    • Old-Message-ID: <[email protected]>
    • Organization: Positive Expected Value, Unlimited
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    [email protected] writes:


    >
    > Does anyone know where to get the complete strategy tables for the Gordon
    > count (2,3,4,5=+1, 10=-1), with side counts of Ace, 6, 7, 8, and 9?
    >
    > I heard this was the most powerful card counting system.
    >
    > If you can actually master it (wouldn't be easy). You have betting correlation
    > of .98 and an amazing playing efficiency of .922!
    >
    > I would like to know if anyone has ever used this system in actual casino
    > play, and are the complete strategy tables in print anywhere?


    I don't know if anyone has ever used it, but I'll bet you my entire
    bankroll (except one penny of course that someone somewhere sometime
    has used it. I think the following could be the Gordon Count's first
    time "in print" for free. First I'll give risk averse strategy
    adjustments using a modified version of the "bj-strat" program. Then
    I'll give the multiparameter adjustments for all the side counts.


    Risk Averse Main Count Strategy Adjustments
    ===========================================


    Blackjack Count Strategy Adjustments


    Cards: 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Ace
    Values: 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 -1 0
    1 deck, no double on splits, dealer hits soft 17
    300 unit bankroll, 1-3 spread


    Hit/Stand Strategy


    Dealer's Upcard


    Player's Total 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Ace


    Hard 21 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    Hard 20 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    Hard 19 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    Hard 18 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    Hard 17 -18 -19 -20 -18 -20 -18 -11 -12 -15 -4
    Hard 16 -7 -8 -9 -10 -11 6 6 3 0 3
    Hard 15 -5 -7 -8 -9 -11 10 11 8 5 6
    Hard 14 -3 -4 -6 -7 -10 14 Hit Hit Hit 12
    Hard 13 -1 -2 -4 -5 -7 Hit Hit Hit Hit Hit
    Hard 12 3 2 0 -1 -3 Hit Hit Hit Hit Hit


    Soft 21 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    Soft 20 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    Soft 19 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    Soft 18 -10 -12 -10 -11 -12 -18 -8 Hit 15 8
    Soft 17 Hit Hit Hit Hit Hit 15 Hit Hit Hit Hit




    Surrender Strategy


    Dealer's Upcard


    Player's Total 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Ace


    Hard 21 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    Hard 20 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    Hard 19 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    Hard 18 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    Hard 17 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 16 11 3
    Hard 16 ... ... ... ... ... ... 3 0 -3 -4
    Hard 15 ... ... ... ... ... ... 7 3 0 -1
    Hard 14 ... ... ... ... ... ... 14 8 3 5
    Hard 13 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 17 8 16
    Hard 12 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 18 13 ...




    Double Down Strategy


    Dealer's Upcard


    Player's Total 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Ace


    Hard 11 -9 -10 -11 -12 -13 -7 -4 -3 -3 0
    Hard 10 -8 -9 -10 -11 -12 -6 -3 -1 7 4
    Hard 9 1 0 -2 -4 -6 3 8 ... ... ...
    Hard 8 15 11 7 4 2 13 ... ... ... ...
    Hard 7 ... 18 12 9 7 ... ... ... ... ...
    Hard 6 ... ... 15 12 10 ... ... ... ... ...
    Hard 5 ... ... 17 13 11 ... ... ... ... ...
    Hard 4 ... ... 18 13 12 ... ... ... ... ...


    Soft 20 12 11 8 6 4 16 ... ... ... ...
    Soft 19 11 6 4 2 -1 17 ... ... ... ...
    Soft 18 3 -1 -11 -12 -14 ... ... ... ... ...
    Soft 17 2 -4 -9 -14 -14 ... ... ... ... ...
    Soft 16 ... 8 -2 -6 -12 ... ... ... ... ...
    Soft 15 17 6 -1 -3 -6 ... ... ... ... ...
    Soft 14 12 7 0 -2 -4 ... ... ... ... ...
    Soft 13 11 7 3 0 -2 ... ... ... ... ...




    Pair Split Strategy (non risk averse)


    Dealer's Upcard


    Player's Pair 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Ace


    Ace,Ace -10 -11 -12 -12 -14 -9 -8 -8 -8 -5
    10,10 12 9 6 4 3 12 19 ... ... ...
    9,9 -1 -2 -3 -5 -6 8 split split -20* 1
    8,8 split split split split split split split 8* 3* -2
    7,7 split split split split split split -7* -14* -16* ...
    6,6 -2 -4 -7 -9 -10 -2* -9* -19* ... ...
    5,5 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    4,4 ... ... ... ... ... -20* -20* ... ... ...
    3,3 7 4 -1 -6 -5 split -16* ... ... ...
    2,2 9 5 -2 -7 -8 split -14* -20* -19* ...




    Multiparameter Strategy Adjustments
    ===================================


    You can improve your strategy by using side counts. That's what is
    meant by "multiparameter strategy adjustments".


    Of course, side counts will give you headaches for multiple decks,
    but then you don't get much for strategy adjustments on multiple
    decks anyway, so then you might switch to High-Low or Zen or Halves, or
    perhaps just keep a side count of aces.


    Strategy adjustments are worth *beaucoup* on deeply dealt single deckers.
    In fact, very deep in the deck, strategy adjustments are worth much more
    than ranging your bet according to the count. You can find a deeply dealt
    single decker by choosing the right casino and/or by choosing the right
    number of players (e.g., 2 rounds of 7 sitting towards third base.)


    Below, the only columns that really make sense to use are A, 6, 7, 8, 9,
    i.e., the cards which Gordon counts as 0. For example, look at the
    very first line of the table, the "0" in the top left corner.
    If you have 17 versus dealer ace then excess observed aces should be
    counted +0 (i.e., as if they were a neutral card.) That was easy, eh?
    But look at the "1" under the 7-column. This means that excess observed
    sevens should be counted as +1 (i.e., as if they were a small card for
    the purpose of this decision.) If you have seen 3 sevens in half a
    deck, then you saw one excess seven over the average. After
    adjusting your count, you then use the regular Gordon strategy
    adjustment tables. So excess observed sevens will make you less likely
    to hit 17 vs. ace (probably because it's that much less likely that the
    dealer has a pat 18 to try to beat.)


    The columns are for the card being side counted. Some of the
    numbers, particularly for splitting, seem a bit wacky and probably
    are erroneous. This table was generated using hand typed data from
    _Theory of Blackjack_ (and a simple program to process these data)
    and so human error is possible in some of the values. Use at your
    own risk. You can and should reformat the data by hand into the
    format used in _World's Greatest Blackjack Book_. You have thus far
    paid me insufficient funds (my records indicate a total of $0.00 to
    date) to do this grunt work for you or to do the extra work necessary
    to figure out where the wacky values are coming from. See _World's
    Greatest Blackjack Book_ and _Theory of Blackjack_ for more information
    on multiparameter counts.


    For example of how to reformat, you would have an ace adjustment table
    that looked like this:


    DEALER UPCARD
    HAND 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 A
    17 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +2 +3 +2 +1 0
    16 +1 +1 +1 0 +1 +1 +1 +1 0 0
    etc


    And then a separate table like that for each of the other cards you
    wish to side count. With this count, it would be a good idea to
    side count 6's 7's and 8's in one group, for maximum bang for brain
    cells. You can do this by averaging their adjustment values.


    [There is no more plain text after this point, just tables of numbers,
    so you may wish to skip the rest of this article. Remember, the columns
    below are the side count cards.]


    DEALER A


    HITTING 17-12
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    0 1 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 -1
    0 0 1 1 2 1 0 0 -1 -1
    0 0 1 1 2 3 0 0 -1 -1
    0 0 0 1 1 3 3 -1 -1 -2
    0 0 0 0 1 3 3 3 -2 -2
    -1 0 0 0 0 3 3 3 3 -2


    DOUBLING 11-10
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1
    -1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1


    HITTING SOFT 18
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 2 3 0 0 -2 0 1 0 -1


    SPLITTING (99)(88)(77)(66)(33)(AA)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    -6 -2 2 1 1 3 1 1 5 -2
    -2 0 0 2 2 -2 0 2 2 -1
    -87 -71 -89 -65 64 78 241 38 60 -42
    1 1 2 3 3 -1 -2 -3 -4 0
    -4 2 8 7 3 -13 -14 -11 10 3
    1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1




    DEALER 10


    HITTING 17-12
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 2 3 -2 -2 -1 1 0 -1
    0 0 1 2 2 -1 1 0 0 -1
    0 0 0 1 2 3 1 0 -1 -1
    0 -1 0 0 1 2 7 0 -1 -2
    0 -1 -1 0 0 1 6 6 -2 -3
    0 -1 -1 -1 -1 0 4 5 6 -3


    DOUBLING 11-10
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 -1
    -2 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 0 -1


    HITTING SOFT 18
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 4 7 -2 -1 -1 -5 -2 1 0


    SPLITTING (88)(33)(22)(AA)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 2 0 0 0 2 0 -1 -1
    1 0 -3 -1 0 4 7 7 -2 -3
    1 -1 0 0 -1 0 0 5 5 -3
    1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 -1






    DEALER 9


    HITTING 17-12
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    2 2 3 3 -2 -2 -2 -2 0 -1
    1 1 1 2 2 -1 -2 0 0 -1
    0 0 0 1 2 2 -2 0 -1 -1
    0 0 0 0 2 3 3 0 -1 -2
    0 0 -1 -1 0 2 3 8 -2 -3
    0 0 -1 -1 -1 0 2 8 7 -3


    DOUBLING 11-10
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    2 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 -1


    HITTING SOFT 18
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    4 5 6 -1 -1 -2 -3 -6 -4 0


    SPLITTING (99)(88)(33)(22)(AA)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    -2 0 1 1 1 1 2 2 0 -1
    1 1 2 0 0 0 -1 2 0 -1
    -1 -8 -14 -12 -5 23 34 36 -6 -12
    0 -3 0 -1 -1 -2 1 10 8 -3
    1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 -1






    DEALER 8


    HITTING 17-12
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    3 3 3 3 -2 -2 -2 -3 -2 0
    1 1 2 2 2 -1 -1 -2 0 -1
    1 0 1 2 2 2 -2 -2 0 -1
    1 0 0 1 2 2 3 -3 -1 -1
    1 0 0 -1 1 3 3 3 -1 -2
    0 -1 -1 -2 -1 1 3 3 8 -3


    DOUBLING 11-9
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 1 1 1 1 0 -1 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 0 -1 -1 -1
    0 2 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 -1


    HITTING SOFT 18
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    3 3 3 0 0 -1 -1 -2 -3 -1


    SOFT DOUBLING 18
    31 44 48 -28 -29 -24 -20 -14 -35 7


    SPLITTING (99)(77)(66)(33)(22)(AA)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    -3 0 1 1 1 1 2 2 0 -1
    1 2 3 4 -4 -5 -6 5 4 -1
    1 1 2 3 3 -1 -2 -2 -2 0
    -1 20 35 23 2 -46 -56 -54 6 18
    2 -5 -5 -6 -8 -2 6 25 26 -8
    1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 -1






    DEALER 7


    HITTING 17-12
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    2 2 2 2 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
    1 1 2 2 2 -1 -2 -2 -2 0
    1 1 2 2 2 2 -2 -2 -2 -1
    1 0 1 2 2 2 2 -3 -3 -1
    1 0 0 1 2 2 2 3 -4 -2
    1 -1 -1 -1 0 2 3 3 3 -3


    DOUBLING 11-8
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1 -1 -1
    0 1 1 2 1 1 0 -1 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1 -1
    0 1 2 1 1 0 0 0 -1 -1


    HITTING SOFT 17
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    2 1 2 2 0 0 -1 -1 -1 -1


    SOFT DOUBLING (A7)(A6)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    -3 -8 -9 9 7 6 5 4 -2 -2
    1 -1 -1 0 5 3 1 0 -2 -2


    SPLITTING (99)(66)(33)(22)(AA)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    -7 -3 2 3 1 3 4 2 -1 -1
    1 1 2 2 2 -2 -2 -2 -3 0
    -1 12 14 13 -2 -21 -26 -25 7 7
    -13 3 21 39 15 -2 -12 -60 -60 17
    1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1 -1






    DEALER 6


    HITTING 17-12
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 2 2 0 0 -1 -1 -1 -1
    1 1 1 1 1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1
    1 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1 -1 -1
    1 1 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1 -1
    1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1
    1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 -2


    DOUBLING 11-7
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 2 0 0 0 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 -1 -1


    SOFT DOUBLING (A9)-(A2)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 -1 -1
    0 0 1 1 2 1 0 0 -1 -1
    1 -1 -1 2 3 1 1 0 0 -1
    1 0 0 0 3 1 0 0 0 -1
    2 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1 -1
    2 1 1 1 1 -2 0 0 -1 -1
    2 2 1 1 1 -1 -2 0 -1 -1
    2 1 2 1 1 0 -1 -2 -1 -1


    SPLITTING (99)(44)(33)(22)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    0 0 1 1 2 1 0 0 -1 -1
    2 2 2 1 1 -1 -2 0 -1 -1
    1 1 1 2 2 -1 -1 -1 0 -1
    1 1 1 2 2 0 0 -2 -2 -1






    DEALER 5


    HITTING 17-12
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 2 2 0 0 -1 -1 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 -1


    DOUBLING 11-7
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 2 2 0 0 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 0 -1 -1 -1


    SOFT DOUBLING (A9)-(A2)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    -1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1 -1
    -1 -1 2 1 2 1 0 0 -1 -1
    -1 -1 -1 2 3 3 1 0 0 -1
    0 0 0 0 3 3 0 0 -1 -1
    1 1 1 1 1 3 0 -1 -1 -1
    1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 -1 -1
    1 1 1 1 1 0 -2 0 -1 -1
    1 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -2 -1 -1


    SPLITTING (99)(44)(33)(22)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    -1 0 1 1 2 1 0 0 -1 -1
    0 2 2 1 1 0 -1 0 -1 -1
    0 1 1 2 2 1 -1 -1 0 -1
    0 1 1 2 2 2 0 -1 -2 -1






    DEALER 4


    HITTING 17-12
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 1 2 0 0 0 -1 -1 -1
    1 1 1 1 2 0 0 -1 -1 -1
    0 0 1 1 1 2 0 -1 -1 -1
    0 0 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1 -1
    0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1
    0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 -2


    DOUBLING 11-7
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 -1 -1
    0 0 1 1 1 2 1 0 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 -1 -1
    0 0 1 2 1 1 1 -1 -1 -1


    SOFT DOUBLING (A9)-(A2)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    -1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 -1 -1
    -1 -1 1 2 2 1 1 0 -1 -1
    -1 -2 -2 3 3 3 3 1 0 -2
    1 -1 -1 0 3 3 3 0 -1 -2
    2 0 0 0 0 4 3 0 -1 -2
    2 1 1 1 1 0 2 0 -1 -1
    1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 -1 -1
    1 1 1 1 1 1 0 -2 -1 -1


    SPLITTING (99)(44)(33)(22)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    -1 0 1 1 1 2 1 0 -1 -1
    0 0 0 1 1 2 2 0 0 -2
    0 0 1 2 2 1 0 -2 -1 -1
    -1 0 1 3 3 3 2 -4 -5 0






    DEALER 3


    HITTING 17-12
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 -1 -1
    1 1 1 2 2 0 0 0 -1 -1
    0 0 1 1 2 2 0 0 -1 -1
    0 0 0 1 2 2 2 -1 -1 -1
    0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1
    0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 -2


    DOUBLING 11-7
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1
    0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1
    0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 -1 -1


    SOFT DOUBLING (A9)-(A2)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    -1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 -1 -1
    -1 -1 1 2 2 2 1 1 -1 -1
    -1 -3 -4 3 3 3 3 3 0 -2
    1 -1 -2 -2 4 4 4 4 -1 -2
    3 -1 -1 0 0 4 4 4 -1 -3
    2 1 0 1 1 0 2 2 -1 -2
    1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 -1 -1
    1 1 1 1 1 1 0 -1 -1 -1


    SPLITTING (99)(77)(66)(33)(22)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    -1 0 1 2 1 1 1 1 -1 -1
    -1 -1 -2 -2 5 5 3 4 -2 -2
    0 0 0 0 1 2 2 2 0 -2
    0 0 1 2 2 0 0 -1 -1 -1
    -1 1 1 5 7 6 2 -8 -19 1






    DEALER 2


    HITTING 17-12
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 -1
    1 1 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 -1
    0 0 1 1 2 2 0 0 -1 -1
    0 0 0 1 2 2 2 -1 -1 -1
    0 0 0 0 1 2 2 2 -1 -2
    0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 2 -2


    DOUBLING 11-7
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1
    0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 -1
    0 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 -2
    0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 -2


    SOFT DOUBLING (A9)-(A2)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    -1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1
    -1 -2 1 1 2 2 2 1 0 -2
    -1 -3 -5 2 4 4 3 3 2 -2
    1 -2 -3 -4 4 4 4 4 4 -3
    4 -1 -2 -3 -2 6 5 5 4 -4
    3 1 0 -1 0 -1 2 2 2 -2
    2 1 1 0 1 0 -1 1 1 -2
    1 1 1 1 1 0 0 -1 1 -1


    SPLITTING (99)(77)(66)(33)(22)
    A 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
    -1 0 1 1 2 1 1 1 0 -1
    -3 -3 -3 -4 5 7 5 6 4 -4
    0 0 0 -1 1 2 3 2 2 -2
    0 0 1 1 2 0 -1 -2 1 -1
    -1 2 2 5 7 5 0 -12 -15 2

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    Btw, I cancelled my subscription when I took a break awhile back so I can't tell if this is posted in the subscribers forums or not.

    What came of Tarzan's publishing decision? Did he decided to publish it privately and sell it through word of mouth, or go through a publisher to make it available for the general public? I wouldn't mind getting my hands on his count.

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    Speaking on behalf of my close friend, Tarzan;

    the polishing of the final text is proceeding apace.

    He will not tolerate the smallest mathematical error.

    Be patient. It will be worth the wait.

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    NotEnoughHeat,


    Contact me if you want to discuss hands-on private lessons.

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    NotEnoughHeat,


    Contact me if you want to discuss hands-on private lessons.
    I'm interested. If you reside in Vegas, I will consider accepting your offer for lessons next time I'm in town. I am not a US resident, so it's a bit of a walk for me.

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    I was not offering MY lessons.

    You would have to fly to the East Coast.

    "Bit of a walk" ? Huh ?

    Non-resident ? Why would I care ?

    You would "consider ..." L.O.L.

    Are you doing ME a favor ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post

    I was not offering MY lessons.

    You would have to fly to the East Coast.

    "Bit of a walk" ? Huh ?

    Non-resident ? Why would I care ?

    You would "consider ..." L.O.L.

    Are you doing ME a favor ?


    Well glad to hear they aren't your lessons considering the way you act. Since you seem to have an issue understanding what people say I'll spell out the post for you.
    1. See dictionary definition of 'hyperbole'. I was obviously implying that I would not be able to attend any regular lessons.
    2. Same as above. Does it not seem relevant to you where a prospective student lives? If you were offering in person guitar lessons and someone says 'oh, but I live in Australia" would your response be:
    " Why would I care ?"

    3. Perhaps I chose my words and tone poorly. I was trying to be non-committal.

    It still surprises me that you did clinical psychology with that kind of attitude. I'm not sure if you're just lashing out because the perceived hounding of you I did in the other thread left you with some kind of petty vendetta.
    I haven't had too much interactions with you, but I'm just going to say I'm getting fairly sick of your shit real quick. Please steer clear of me if you're going to keep doing that. I'm sure I'm not the only member that would prefer it if you toned down your condescending and ridiculing comments.

    I'll be looking forward to your meaningful contributions to this site once you clear up whatever is making you say things like this.
    Last edited by NotEnoughHeat; 02-02-2016 at 09:42 AM.

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