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    Seminole Hard Rock - Tampa

    I just moved to the Tampa area, and was wondering what the community's thoughts are about playing BJ at this casino. I understand the house rules aren't great, so do you recommend any casino cruises nearby with better tables?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Florida is, more or less, void of exploitable blackjack opportunities.

    I know the Florida Gulf Coast pretty well.

    Others will offer more feedback.

    As you are not (yet) a paid member,

    nobody can P.M. (private message) you.

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    Hello neighbor

    Down here near FTL.

    Depending upon the stakes you bet, you might find Tampa's HR tolerable. Good for initial practice at red chip level, but only survivable in HL area with 6D games. IIRC, all non-HL tables are 8D (6D non-HL are csm dealt). Pen is nothing to write home about.

    You are a lot closer than I am to the Gulf Coast, and suspect that you might want to take a few trips to your NW, and visit Biloxi, MS; New Orleans, LA; Tunica, MS, etc. Other casinos in other cities in those states with perhaps some decent games (maybe not).

    I would recommend that you visit bj21.com, and see about a subscription to their monthly report. It may not be 100% up to date, and some reporting for it might not want to share their best kept secret games, but by and by, its the best information out there on table game conditions, other than word of mouth.
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    Hi Frank
    I am not sure what you meant by "only survivable" do you mean the quality of the game or the heat?

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    No heat required! The only requirement is finding people willing to play those crappy games.

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    Is it really that bad? The calculations I'm running show a house edge of .7%. Obviously not good, but couldn't an aggressive wong-in strategy and spread help make up the difference? Obviously, this will draw heat, but in theory it should work. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tampaplayer View Post
    " ... a house edge of .7%".

    0.7% is absolutely dreadful.

    It is hard to find worse.

    Aggressive wonging-in is a (virtual) waste of time.

    Presuming Mid-Shoe Entry is permitted,

    You will need a Hi-Lo +2 before wonging in,

    - at that your e.v. is barely worth your time.

    Sorry to be the harbinger of bad tidings !

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    All HR properties are users and contributors to OSN. I also hear that Tampa is fairly quick to bar in HL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlene View Post
    All HR properties are users and contributors to OSN. I also hear that Tampa is fairly quick to bar in HL.
    So it more or less sounds like it's more or less not worth going here at all.

    That's unfortunate considering that I'd like to get in some good practice locally before making a trip to Biloxi/Tunica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tampaplayer View Post
    So it more or less sounds like it's more or less not worth going here at all.
    No. . ... Not "more or less" ..... "Fuggedaboudit."

    Meanwhile, the games in
    Mississippi are pretty good, BUT, if you are simply backed off at any casino,
    your photos, etc. are automatically flyers to all local casinos. If you bet high or play too long or win
    too much you will
    have burned your bridges. Try to learn not to play (robotically) "by the book". You
    will be "profiled" as a potential Card Counter if you are male, Caucasian, and young, especially <35.


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