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    I was robbed once - but it was a huge [mid 5 figure] loss.

    I will just say that the details are too embarrassing to relate.

    I do not enter a casino without an irrational amount of money.

    I do use valet parking sometimes.

    I am always armed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post

    I was robbed once - but it was a huge [mid 5 figure] loss.

    I will just say that the details are too embarrassing to relate.

    I do not enter a casino without an irrational amount of money.

    I do use valet parking sometimes.

    I am always armed.

    In America don't different states have gun restrictions of carrying firearms especially if they're concealed firearms?

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    Laws vary a great deal.

    In many states e.g. Texas, Montana, etc.

    a very high percentage of the population is armed.

    In many states it is very difficult to get a "carry permit."

    Perhaps the most difficult being New York, where the permit

    is available to Jewelers and others carrying cash and jewelry.

    Permit "waiting periods" vary tremendously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post

    Laws vary a great deal.

    In many states e.g. Texas, Montana, etc.

    a very high percentage of the population is armed.

    In many states it is very difficult to get a "carry permit."

    Perhaps the most difficult being New York, where the permit

    is available to Jewelers and others carrying cash and jewelry.

    Permit "waiting periods" vary tremendously.

    Texas is about to get open carry on January 1 . Kind of a moot point to this discussion since there aren't any real BJ options in Texas. But yes, the laws vary significantly. One should definitely get some education before they decide to buy and carry a weapon.

    In Texas, for example, a person with a valid CHL (Concealed Handgun License) can carry any number of weapons as long as they are concealed. Any business can prohibit entry by a armed CHL holder if they display the appropriate sign. If a business gets more than 50% of it's revenues from the sale of alcohol, then they are required to display a compliant sign. These restrictions do not apply to Law Enforcement Officers (LEO's). Anyone who is legally able to own a gun can carry a gun in their car as long as it is concealed. You can carry in church but not in schools, so if your church meets in a school building, you are SOL. There are a few other finer points.

    Certain states have reciprocity agreements where they will each honor the CHL's or CWP's of the other state's residents. But you have to follow the specific restrictions of the state that you are in. Most common differences relate to carrying where alcohol is consumed and there are other nuances with how you are required to notify a LEO that you are armed. In Texas, you just hand them your CHL along with your DL. Louisiana requires an affirmative and immediate notification upon contact by the LEO.

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    Spring-activated pocket knives with belt clips are a fair alternative.

    Of course money-belts and similar articles designed to conceal cash

    are readily available. The one sold at b
    j21.com is excellent.

    It slides down the INSIDE of one's trousers.

    Bankroll Pouch

    This hidden pouch was designed for use by jewelers, but is just the right size and shape for carrying currency. It will hold $20,000 with no problem, and $30,000 can be squeezed in.
    The pouch clips securely to your belt and drops down inside your pants. You can easily wear more than one.
    The pouch is sturdy -- leather, with a zipper opening. You won't have to worry about bills slipping down your pantleg and causing a riot.
    Bulk can be a problem. $20,000 can make an embarrassing bulge if you are thin and wear tight pants. But almost all the bulge will be money -- the pouch itself adds little to the thickness.
    Wearing a pouch through airport security will not set off an alarm -- at least we have no reports of it happening yet.
    The price is $29.95 (plus sales tax if sent to a Nevada address). The Bankroll Pouch is available from:
    Pi Yee Press
    6267 Dean Martin Drive
    Las Vegas, NV 89118

    Phone 702-579-7711
    E-mail [email protected]
    Last edited by ZenMaster_Flash; 11-30-2015 at 12:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Probably some lessens in self-defense might be more prudent. A proper swift kick to the chest right near the heart could drop a bear. Pulling a weapon could create more issues that job being robbed. Especially, if you not good at using them under pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJprive View Post
    @zenmaster_flash - How does this work exactly? you have 45k in chips and u just mail them out? What happens if they get lost in the mail? Any chance the casino pockets the chips and says they did not receive them? Will have to experiment with this for sure. More info on this subject would definitely interest me if u have anything on it.
    I'm not Zen, but in case you're still unclear I'll answer this. Most countries usually have some form of certified mail where you pay a larger fee than standard postage but you package is tracked and required signature on release. First, more than likely it won't get lost in the mail because of the extra care given. If it does, it's insured anyways. If the casino pockets the chips and says that they didn't receive it then you'll have a pretty easy time in court when you produce the receipt of the signature or have the mailing company present the original signature itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotEnoughHeat View Post
    I'm not Zen, but in case you're still unclear I'll answer this. Most countries usually have some form of certified mail where you pay a larger fee than standard postage but you package is tracked and required signature on release. First, more than likely it won't get lost in the mail because of the extra care given. If it does, it's insured anyways. If the casino pockets the chips and says that they didn't receive it then you'll have a pretty easy time in court when you produce the receipt of the signature or have the mailing company present the original signature itself.
    I've been somewhat under the weather and inactive, though I just plotted this post.

    3 comments
    1. So what if you have clear proof of sending a package. Do you have clear proof of what you sent. Let me absolutely assure you that even under the most generous of circumstances, that you will be hassled to the nth degree on a claim settlement, refused payment, and refused again upon review.
    2. If shipment is international in nature, customs documents need be prepared to accompany the shipment. Now, the question as to wheather casino chips are a negotiable instrument or not is really a matter of interpretation - in other words, laws entering Canada and/ or the United States are very similar, however, how it interprets, and to the degree, is often subject to the individual customs agent. Opens up a whole new can of worms.
    3. Insurance by shipping companies is often refused by shipping companies, when item shipped contains negotiable securities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    First Class Mail, when certified, etc. is insured for a small fee.

    Certified letters are treated like the Hope Diamond.

    "special" mail is never lost. The USPS is proud of that.

    In fact the Hope Diamond was once sent through the

    mail by ordinary 1st Class Mail. You misread my post

    about my student. He was given no choice, but to leave

    the all of his winnings in the casino and return to the states.
    MY remarks above are absolutely correct, but I can only comment on the U.S.A.

    Like Arnold Snyder, I too was a postal employee (once upon a time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    MY remarks above are absolutely correct, but I can only comment on the U.S.A.

    Like Arnold Snyder, I too was a postal employee (once upon a time).

    Let me assure you that 100% on time delivery without damage is a fallacy. Items of absolutely extraordinary value of which are in fact a high value theft item should be hand carried (on board courier or security)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    I've been somewhat under the weather and inactive, though I just plotted this post.

    3 comments
    1. So what if you have clear proof of sending a package. Do you have clear proof of what you sent. Let me absolutely assure you that even under the most generous of circumstances, that you will be hassled to the nth degree on a claim settlement, refused payment, and refused again upon review.
    2. If shipment is international in nature, customs documents need be prepared to accompany the shipment. Now, the question as to wheather casino chips are a negotiable instrument or not is really a matter of interpretation - in other words, laws entering Canada and/ or the United States are very similar, however, how it interprets, and to the degree, is often subject to the individual customs agent. Opens up a whole new can of worms.
    3. Insurance by shipping companies is often refused by shipping companies, when item shipped contains negotiable securities.
    I have never personally used certified mail so I only have a rough idea of what it offers. Perhaps ZenMaster_Flash could explain how the insurance works. Is it just blind $X of reimbursement no matter the contents, or is there a way to get proof of the contents for insurance purposes?

    Anyways, I would like to hear more about the potential pro's and con's of cashing chips via mail. It'd be great to know as much as possible so I can decide how much of an option it is if the need ever arises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    Bankroll Pouch

    This hidden pouch was designed for use by jewelers, but is just the right size and shape for carrying currency. It will hold $20,000 with no problem, and $30,000 can be squeezed in.
    The pouch clips securely to your belt and drops down inside your pants. You can easily wear more than one.
    The pouch is sturdy -- leather, with a zipper opening. You won't have to worry about bills slipping down your pantleg and causing a riot.
    Bulk can be a problem. $20,000 can make an embarrassing bulge if you are thin and wear tight pants. But almost all the bulge will be money -- the pouch itself adds little to the thickness.
    Wearing a pouch through airport security will not set off an alarm -- at least we have no reports of it happening yet.
    The price is $29.95 (plus sales tax if sent to a Nevada address). The Bankroll Pouch is available from:
    Pi Yee Press
    6267 Dean Martin Drive
    Las Vegas, NV 89118

    Phone 702-579-7711
    E-mail [email protected]
    Thanks Flash. I have a couple of these. I find I can squeeze $40K in one in hundreds (8 wraps) but there is no way any more will go into the pouch. I found a need for more pouches and couldn't find them on their site or anywhere else. I was surprised because that is were I bought mine. I will try the number above.

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