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Thread: Losing session and streak criticism sought (not rant)

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    I use indices tailored to Pontoon and BJ not just basic strategy. It's especially important in Pontoon.
    I.... feel so right doing the Wong thing!!! 9-5! 9-5! 9-5! Every king that screws her makes me feel alive!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeymouse View Post
    I am still overall ahead career-wise and I do not feel bored or lacking in motivation.
    That is what is important ,i see have improved your emotional control . You just have some bad variance,if you are still under EV. How many hours have you played under good condition (non crowded), at least 100rounds /hr, etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeymouse View Post
    I use indices tailored to Pontoon and BJ not just basic strategy. It's especially important in Pontoon.
    Yes it is and you should win twice as much as playing BS with the count. Beyond that all I can say is because you are varying your bets and playing simultaneous hands your standard deviation is going to markedly increase. It is sad but true that even a skilled player can have a very long run of losses and an unskilled player can get lucky for quite a long time. Standard deviation proves this and it is just the nature of the game.

    There is one further tactic worth mentioning. If you are playing a shoe game with 90% pen and you are playing simultaneous hands I would suggest spreading to the maximum number of available boxes when you are approaching the cut card. This will increase the penetration even more but it should only be done if you have the advantage in the game at this point in the shoe. You will also have to decide if you want to back bet the other players in this situation.
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    Check your game for leaks. How many hours have you played .Also stop reacting to your loses so much ,just think of the big picture. I remembered you saying you are still up overall which is a good thing. imagined the ploppies that played as many hours as you ,how much have they lost!I say make sure you are properly funded and keep playing under good condition(important). having a max bet of 2 x$125 but playing with a 10k-13k bank does not seem enough . it is a 90% pen game so maybe you can spread lower and wong out quite a bit . i wondered what the sim shows.

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    When I started I set aside 25k for this game. It was the amount I was prepared to lose because it equated to the amount I won when I did bonus hunting online when it was profitable back in 2006-2008. In retrospect I probably should have started card counting then as conditions were much better in Australia then compared to what they are now. So my current bank before complete ruin is about 29.2k.

    I have played about 480 hours, I've plugged in the numbers and I have about a 12% chance of doing worse than what I have achieved up to that time. Mind you I was probably playing less optimally during the beginning of my career. Yes the same ploppies keep playing here and they virtually invariably lose their session bankroll. I seem to be the only person cashing out most of the time!

    The late Kat Walker once said that the sooner you keep playing when you are in a bad run the sooner you will recover from your streak. It worked for me the first two times. But it's the bad runs like these that convince you that high counts are -EV not +EV.
    I.... feel so right doing the Wong thing!!! 9-5! 9-5! 9-5! Every king that screws her makes me feel alive!!

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    Yes at the end of the shoe if it is clear that I still have the advantage I will back bet ploppies who are relatively better to the tune of $25-30. I will even do it, on rare occasions, at a lower count, as a cover play. I haven't bet more boxes when playing heads up though; I have done it if there is another player on the table.
    I.... feel so right doing the Wong thing!!! 9-5! 9-5! 9-5! Every king that screws her makes me feel alive!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeymouse View Post
    But it's the bad runs like these that convince you that high counts are -EV not +EV.
    I have explained this to you but it won't sink in. Each advantage bet size has it's own n0. The quicker you hit that number of bets the more likely you are to perceive results as what they really are. Max bets are rarely made so it tales a very long time to reach that bets n0. This infrequency of placing the bets makes it easy to get a misconception and once an idea pops into your head most people will overemphasize confirming events and ignore events that don't fit the idea. That is called selective memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeymouse View Post
    Yes at the end of the shoe if it is clear that I still have the advantage I will back bet ploppies who are relatively better to the tune of $25-30. I will even do it, on rare occasions, at a lower count, as a cover play. I haven't bet more boxes when playing heads up though; I have done it if there is another player on the table.
    Poppies around here tend to be clueless about BJ variants. They play them pretty close to BJ strategy which will cause them to lose quickly. I haven't seen many that I would back bet. Many do continually ask me how to play their hands after playing with me long enough. The funny thing is some still misplay them even after asking. I think wtf are you asking for if you won't follow the advice. You give them a quick and dirty BS for the game and many just can't bring themselves to hit all the hands they should be hitting. Perhaps back betting is a part of your issue. When you do that you are no doubt misplaying those hands because the ploppy is making the decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    "Many do continually ask me how to play their hands after playing with me long enough.
    The funny thing is some still misplay them even after asking. I think wtf are you asking for if you won't follow the advice."
    I have had the same experience. I do not respond after the first bit of B.S. advice is not adhered to.
    I realize that they think that I am simply lucky, and they are "testing" their non-hypothesis with a Sample
    Size of N=1 so that IF my play fails to be advantageous they can confirm their wrong-headed conclusion
    that I am a player less skilled than themselves, as they trot over to the nearest A.T.M. or slot machine.

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