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    So now that I'm 86'd.... Thought I'd give back..

    Who wants details to the best casino in the country? If you do, send me a message. The only thing this casino doesn't offer is surrender, and the pen ranges from 10 cards to 1/2 deck on 6 deck shoes. Yes, you read right.

    Hit them hard! You'll likely get a few hours to play as they try to evaluate your play, but know that you will be 86'd, and not backed off, so do NOT show ID at any point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SplittingFives View Post
    Who wants details to the best casino in the country? If you do, send me a message. The only thing this casino doesn't offer is surrender, and the pen ranges from 10 cards to 1/2 deck on 6 deck shoes. Yes, you read right.

    Hit them hard! You'll likely get a few hours to play as they try to evaluate your play, but know that you will be 86'd, and not backed off, so do NOT show ID at any point.
    Casinos are the Devil who has snared and hurt whomever walks into their gambling fabled dens. Therefore the victimized/86ed-APs must make the snaring casinos public. You're 86ed too soon because the last evicted-AP fails to make this snaring casino known in public for all to see.


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    My decades of experience has taught me that ...

    Any casino will 86' you (or take counter-measures) if you're greedy.

    What is greedy in one casino may not be greedy in another casino.

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    Now I'm confused, where in my post does it ask for criticism on my play? With a large spread like the one I employ, this was the only way I could play it, and I will explain since apparently some people think me having positive variance is greedy when the EV on this game and likelihood of seeing all those big cards is through the roof. Here's all you need to know... CVBJ doesn't even have an option for less than 1/2 deck for EV calculation because it isn't supposed to exist. I was trying to offer some great intel on a game that is WRONG in all of the casino conditions newsletters, but apparently you guys like to focus on the 86? We're card counters, that shit is going to happen.

    So let me explain since I don't want people creating a false assumption of who I am. I am a graduate student with minimal playing time and do this part time since frankly it pays better than any part-time job I could have. So because of being backed off at my local spots, I'm forced to travel on free weekends to play. So, because the other casinos in the area don't have nearly the same game, there is no point in me bouncing around for worse playing conditions. Honestly, that sounds like something a complete dumbass would do, but what do I know. So since I'm playing 1 place for the day, I come up with 2 rules to try and stay under the radar. 1. Only play 1 session per shift 2. Once I expose my top bet, that's the last shoe of that session as to maintain longevity whether I win or lose. As for the greedy remark, I can't help that I had positive variance, and a lot of it. For instance, I made 136 units in 2 shoes and called it quits until the shift change. Holy shit am I greedy! Playing a whopping half hour and leaving because I took some of their money. Curse me for being such a greedy asshole.

    I made this post only to help people earn some great EV, not be criticized for variance I was incapable of controlling. What the hell is wrong with the counting community where a guy tries to do something nice for strangers, to fatten up their wallets a little, and you feel the need to criticize the 86? I know you've been around the block, and have a lot of great wisdom and insight, but know your damn facts before you assume I'm being greedy. I played a whole 3 hours this weekend because of how things went. Man, I'm a terrible, greedy person.

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    getting 86'd doesn't even mean anything where i live. and i live in one of the most popular gambling destinations.
    big dog in charge

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    Quote Originally Posted by SplittingFives View Post
    Now I'm confused, where in my post does it ask for criticism on my play? With a large spread like the one I employ, this was the only way I could play it, and I will explain since apparently some people think me having positive variance is greedy when the EV on this game and likelihood of seeing all those big cards is through the roof. Here's all you need to know... CVBJ doesn't even have an option for less than 1/2 deck for EV calculation because it isn't supposed to exist. I was trying to offer some great intel on a game that is WRONG in all of the casino conditions newsletters, but apparently you guys like to focus on the 86? We're card counters, that shit is going to happen.

    So let me explain since I don't want people creating a false assumption of who I am. I am a graduate student with minimal playing time and do this part time since frankly it pays better than any part-time job I could have. So because of being backed off at my local spots, I'm forced to travel on free weekends to play. So, because the other casinos in the area don't have nearly the same game, there is no point in me bouncing around for worse playing conditions. Honestly, that sounds like something a complete dumbass would do, but what do I know. So since I'm playing 1 place for the day, I come up with 2 rules to try and stay under the radar. 1. Only play 1 session per shift 2. Once I expose my top bet, that's the last shoe of that session as to maintain longevity whether I win or lose. As for the greedy remark, I can't help that I had positive variance, and a lot of it. For instance, I made 136 units in 2 shoes and called it quits until the shift change. Holy shit am I greedy! Playing a whopping half hour and leaving because I took some of their money. Curse me for being such a greedy asshole.

    I made this post only to help people earn some great EV, not be criticized for variance I was incapable of controlling. What the hell is wrong with the counting community where a guy tries to do something nice for strangers, to fatten up their wallets a little, and you feel the need to criticize the 86? I know you've been around the block, and have a lot of great wisdom and insight, but know your damn facts before you assume I'm being greedy. I played a whole 3 hours this weekend because of how things went. Man, I'm a terrible, greedy person.
    There are likely local counters in the area you are referring to, if the info your spouting is accurate, would be incredibly pissed, at what you're doing. These players, who have likely milked this game over the long haul, will see it blown away if there are takers to your offer. To this point, there is no public disclosure, and you may or may not have answered emails. I have seen an entire large geographical offer virtually ruined because of a big mouth. The local players, whatever area your from, sooner or later, will find you out - giving out info to indivuduals who really don't give a shit about your area. This is the type of info you disclose to only a select few trustworthy individuals.

    If you haven't disclosed the area yet - don't.

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    Splitting fives can you pm me. I just made an account and can't seem to be able send a pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by chkraise View Post
    Splitting fives can you pm me. I just made an account and can't seem to be able send a pm
    I too apparently can't send a PM... If you're willing to share (or even exchange a little info) PM me =). Or even email me: [email protected]
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    The vultures have landed.

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    I'll out it. Caesar's in AC. They deal about a half deck out of their shoe games.

    I hope OP didn't mean to say they cut off a half deck, instead of saying the PEN is a half deck . In that case, I ALSO know where the game is, but I won't tell you about that one.
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    moo321,

    That wasn't funny. You know perfectly well that they deal 4 of 6 decks.

    Of course the Evil Empire will never tolerate any of us for long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moo321 View Post
    I'll out it. Caesar's in AC. They deal about a half deck out of their shoe games.

    I hope OP didn't mean to say they cut off a half deck, instead of saying the PEN is a half deck . In that case, I ALSO know where the game is, but I won't tell you about that one.
    Caesar just reported quarterly earnings. The revenue was down 46% this quarter compared to the same quarter last year. That means, almost half of people stopped playing at their property. Most likely they will even tighten the rules to pay people less in hope to make money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    That means, almost half of people stopped playing at their property.
    Much as I think rule-tightening by casinos is stupid, that's not really what this means. The loss was due to a one-time restructuring. Revenue is up. Not that they are out of the woods.
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