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    If you are afraid to lose 2-4 times your max bet in a single hand your max bet is too big. Second you should not split 3's vs a 8 or higher only split against a 7 or less. You should never split 4's even if the dealer has a 5-6 up with a high count against a 5-6 you should double instead other wise hit. Buy a copy of playing blackjack as a business and look at gain or loss for each blackjack play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartblackjack View Post
    If you are afraid to lose 2-4 times your max bet in a single hand your max bet is too big. Second you should not split 3's vs a 8 or higher only split against a 7 or less. You should never split 4's even if the dealer has a 5-6 up with a high count against a 5-6 you should double instead other wise hit. Buy a copy of playing blackjack as a business and look at gain or loss for each blackjack play.
    If DAS is allowed, it is better to split 4-4 against a 5 or 6 in a high count. If no DAS allowed, then double. (Wong, Professional Blackjack, Table 13, pg 60)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartblackjack View Post
    Second you should not split 3's vs a 8 or higher only split against a 7 or less.
    There is an index for this play for hilo (the OP's count of choice). The EV maximizing index gain is so minimal that you should probably never use it. RA index would be not to split at all just as you suggest. Look at the gain in the interactive graph in the link below. The count tags of Hilo have almost no correlation to the play as can be seen by the fact that BS and Hilo have almost the same EV at every TC.

    https://www.card-counting.com/cvcxonlineviewer3.htm
    Quote Originally Posted by Smartblackjack View Post
    You should never split 4's even if the dealer has a 5-6 up with a high count against a 5-6 you should double instead other wise hit.
    This point is debated heavily over and over again. I agree with your position on choice from a RA standpoint when both indices are in play and the doubling index is exceeded by enough against a 5. I don't agree about not splitting when only the splitting index is in play. We tend to be in the minority camp so newbies take that for what it is worth. When discussing these things your count needs to be considered and I use a level 2 count so YMMV.

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