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    Mohegan's Sun, Connecticut

    I played at Mohegan's Sun in Connecticut on my vacation.

    There was both regular blackjack (6 deck, S17 standard rules) and Spanish 21 (8 deck).

    Conditions generally poor. Tables crowded, but a few of them had only 1-2 other players. Penetration was atrocious (2+ decks cut of 6 decks for blackjack; 2.5 out of 8 for Spanish 21).

    The other players called me a fool for not making match the dealer side bets. Everyone else invariably bet the side bets every hand they played.

    Heat was considerable. Dealer went "checks play" when I increased bet from 1 unit to 2x2.

    Had an absolutely atrocious night, losing $1100 in all, and at a rate of about 15% of total amount wagered. I was spreading only about half as much as I was back home. Despite the bad penetration, there were still a reasonable number of good runs as far as the true count was concerned. However, I lost on virtually every single occasion this occurred. Busted on just about every 12 and 13 while the dealer didn't, and blackjacks favoured the dealer by about 5:1 on the night.
    I.... feel so right doing the Wong thing!!! 9-5! 9-5! 9-5! Every king that screws her makes me feel alive!!

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    Conditions sound about right
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    Anyone wanting a half assed decent game is not going to play a single hand in that place. I have walked out of many a casino without playing a single hand over not seeing reasonable playing conditions. Last of the Mohegans, Baby! I wouldn't play a single hand under those conditions even if I lived right next door to the place. Pit stop at Foxwoods at best on your way out of Connecticut to a more playable game! Please don't ever vacation in Oklahoma, coming back to tell us about paying a 50 cent ante per hand?Hahaha At least they didn't whack you for too very much, just enough to sting and make you think about playing there again anytime soon.
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    You didn't know that you were very near Foxwoods and Twin River?
    Both of which offer better games, especially Twin River for low stakes.

    By the way, Mohegan Sun is the only casino where the
    SPANISH21
    rules
    are crippled by not permitting re-split Aces, with full action on
    the Aces. The House Edge is revoltingly, disgustingly high.
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    out of all the casinos I wish I could still play Mohegan is one that will be missed.. that places is great.. 1.8 cut strip rules are playable with out the rsa.

    theres like 150 tables or some shit.. if you don't like the cut find another dealer. 2.0 is playbe with those rules and its makes it equivlint to an ac high limit game cut about 1.4

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    Yeah the sick thing about the place is the number of pits and tables. Can't believe they still stand on all 17. Pen suck but you just leave every negative shoe and since there are tons of tables it's not a waste of time. Also they get some pretty ok action so you can bet a decent amount. They do have like the worst Spanish 21 game in the country there as was said earlier.

    Twin river was super sweaty and also the smokiest dump I have been to. But for small bets it's probably a good place to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    I have walked out of many a casino without playing a single hand over not seeing reasonable playing conditions.Please don't ever vacation in Oklahoma, coming back to tell us about paying a 50 cent ante per hand?Hahaha
    Oklahoma is NOT all bad. Like you said....penetration can be very dealer specific. It's the paucity of tables that is the issue. You must have only played at some of the bigger houses here (which are greedy and never waive ante) but there are many places that don't have ante on different days (or a full month for promotions). You just have to scout. Can't depend upon CBJN because it's not accurate or up to date. Can't be on the way they change stuff here so quickly. But rules are generally MUCH better than most places. S17; resplit aces; DAS; Double anything. But each house is different.

    Quote Originally Posted by biggg View Post
    Can't believe they still stand on all 17. Pen suck but you just leave every negative shoe and since there are tons of tables it's not a waste of time.
    You act like S17 is a BAD rule...........but I know you mean otherwise. I wish there were a ton of tables here to play. Just the volume CAN make a difference if you are trying to wong in and out. It's damn near impossible here in our area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJGolf View Post
    Oklahoma is NOT all bad. Like you said....penetration can be very dealer specific. It's the paucity of tables that is the issue. You must have only played at some of the bigger houses here (which are greedy and never waive ante) but there are many places that don't have ante on different days (or a full month for promotions). You just have to scout. Can't depend upon CBJN because it's not accurate or up to date. Can't be on the way they change stuff here so quickly. But rules are generally MUCH better than most places. S17; resplit aces; DAS; Double anything. But each house is different.
    I have only been to Okl City but I didn't see any S17. Are there places with S17 that tolerate decent action? If public is too sensitive for answer please email [email protected]. I heard HR in Tulsa has ante and can be sweaty.

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    Thank you all for your feedback.
    I happened to be staying in New London, but Mohegan's Sun was the closest venue to my hotel. I just didn't think that it was worth driving any further on the dark roads of Connecticut. Quite honestly, roads in northeastern USA are downright dangerous by world standards (and even by Western USA standards in my opinion).

    I will never play again at Mohegan Sun. It is virtually impossible to table hop there as most tables are full, even on a Monday. Also it is clear that tolerance there is tiny compared to my "home venue". They did allow resplitting aces in Spanish 21.

    I lost - a lot - the end result was probably in the bottom 5% of career sessions. And most of the loss was still negative variance, as my EV was still positive - it just wasn't as much per hour as my normal venue.
    Unless of course, there was foul play. I played 2.5 hours of Spanish 21 and not a single player on my table won a bonus payment during that town (5-card 21 or 678 or 777). That's almost unheard of in my career. Perhaps they removed some aces.
    I.... feel so right doing the Wong thing!!! 9-5! 9-5! 9-5! Every king that screws her makes me feel alive!!

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    Nah games at Mohegan are fair. You just ran bad. Not sure why you would play Spanish there. Foxwoods has a nice Spanish game btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeymouse View Post
    I will never play again at Mohegan Sun. It is virtually impossible to table hop there as most tables are full, even on a Monday. Also it is clear that tolerance there is tiny compared to my "home venue".
    mickeymouse, since this was only a vacation trip for you to the M.Sun casino I am sorry it did not go your way, and I also thank you for your opinion of the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeymouse View Post
    They did allow resplitting aces in Spanish 21.
    I believe the crap rule they have for SP21 is no hitting split aces. Obviously that would destroy the game.

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    Mohegan is not my favorite place to play. Still, I think it gets a bad rap from those who are just fly-by-night players. Pen is typically two decks cut off. Still, if you play there enough, you will learn which dealers cut more favorably even down to one deck. New dealers you'll find don't cut the standard two decks even though there is a notch in the shoe.

    I have to disagree with the statement that MS is very sweaty. I feel that they tolerate CC's. You have to be very obvious for them to even care it seems. If the dealer calls out "checks play," typically it is so the floor supervisor can record the action for comps etc.

    Yes, the place can be busy. Mid-week usually is a good time to go, but even then that is no guarantee. Still, the place is so large it is easy to change rooms to find better table conditions. The weekends incl Friday are when the most tables are open.

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