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    Vietnam and surrounding areas

    I just came back from a trip to Vietnam and wanted to give a quick report as I do not plan on returning in the foreseeable future.
    The blackjack in Ho Chi Minh City, where I stayed, is offered at several different 5 star hotels. The games are virtual with a dealer who uses a computer screen to deal and shuffle virtually, some casinos even having the player use regular hand signals which are interpreted by the real-life dealer and input into the computers.
    That said, there ARE countable games in the city, and the rules are quite favorable. One HCMC casino I visited had S17, DA2, LS, 6 deck, 5/6 penetration (still virtual), and perhaps even RSA, I am not sure on that last rule. Table min/max change and vary from casino to casino, but seem to hover at $10-$400, in U.S. dollars, NOT Vietnamese Dong.
    I understand there is quite a large casino in Ho Tram Beach where the dealers use tangible cards. I did not have a chance to visit so I cannot speak on the conditions at this casino.

    I will be taking trips to other Southeast Asian countries and evaluating their blackjack conditions. If there is interest, let me know, and I will continue reporting. Thailand and Indonesia have no games. Singapore has two very nice casinos, no good blackjack opportunities worth reporting.

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    Please keep your reports from the road coming.

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    I understand Singapore has all CSM but also has loss rebates. Report of BJ rules would be much appreciated.

    There are casinos in countries that neighbor Thailand along the borders e.g. Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia.

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    Loss rebates, even modest ones in term of %'s will easily overcome the
    disadvantage that one has with CSM's and accompanying fine rules, which
    will provide a house edge of 0.1% to 0.2%. The difficulty is that the casino
    will always require high betting minimums and credit or "front money" that
    is beyond the capacity of mere mortals like you and I. A six figure amount
    in cash is a hefty sum in the world in which I reside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlene View Post
    I understand Singapore has all CSM but also has loss rebates. Report of BJ rules would be much appreciated.

    There are casinos in countries that neighbor Thailand along the borders e.g. Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia.
    I am based in Singapore for these trips, so I have visited both the casinos more than once. I can confirm Singapore DOES have all CSM for blackjack. Spoke with a dealer about it who told me that shoes used to be present, but they installed CSM precisely to combat the possibility of counting. The CSM blackjack is better at Marina Bay Sands than at Resorts World Sentosa (Genting). Table minimums never drop below $25 at Marina Bay. At Sentosa there are usually $10 blackjack tables. Table maximums at both locations are very high, even going as high as $200,000 SGD on the main floor (roughly $140,000 USD). There are several restricted rooms as well. It is quite entertaining watching the Asians playing massive sums on Baccarat.

    Marina Bay Sands rules are 6 decks, S17, DA2, DAS, RSA to 3 hands, ES vs. 10 and LS, no hole card. Sentosa is the same except doubling is confined to 9-11 AND any doubling or splitting done against a dealer blackjack loses ALL bets.

    Other games offered at these casinos that are not seen in the west. "Three pictures" is one. Check their respective websites if you have interest in others. I can confirm that Baccarat in Singapore is played according to the Wizard's unconfrimed report, where Banker wins on 6 pay 50%, making the Player bet significantly more favorable.

    I have reason to believe there are not favorable blackjack conditions in Malaysia. I have reports from Singaporeans of cheating in Cambodian casinos, as there is very little to no regulation. Play with caution. I will visit the country within the next three months and report what I can. No information on the communist country of Laos, I can only imagine it will be similar to Cambodia.

    I am planning to stop in Macau in 2 weeks. If anybody has specific conditions they would like me to check on or confirm feel free to request and I will try to report back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalseCount View Post
    I am planning to stop in Macau in 2 weeks. If anybody has specific conditions they would like me to check on or confirm feel free to request and I will try to report back.
    Thank you FC for the info. Cambodia sounds dangerous. There is a large Genting casino in Malaysia. I do not know if it is all CSM. http://www.rwgenting.com

    I am curious to know if casinos in Macau use the promo-chip program or dead-chip program for blackjack. Reference info: http://wizardofmacau.com/general/deadchip.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlene View Post
    Thank you FC for the info. Cambodia sounds dangerous. There is a large Genting casino in Malaysia. I do not know if it is all CSM. http://www.rwgenting.com

    I am curious to know if casinos in Macau use the promo-chip program or dead-chip program for blackjack. Reference info: http://wizardofmacau.com/general/deadchip.html
    That is probably not something I could investigate for you, as it involves stakes beyond my current means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalseCount View Post
    That is probably not something I could investigate for you, as it involves stakes beyond my current means.
    FalseCount,

    You either can't receive PMs or Taptalk has trouble sending PMs through this forum. I have a non-public question. Can you post your email or email me at [email protected] ?

    Regards,

    Marv

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    Marlene,

    Two points:

    There has been a huge corruption scandal that has rocked ALL of the
    Macau Casinos, and I believe that the "Dead Chip" Rebate programs
    are defunct. They used to require "Whale" sized Front Money.
    Macau casino revenues have (profoundly) crumbled!

    I suggest that you avoid any casino owned by the Genting Group of Malaysia,
    including their properties in Europe, as they are similar to the "Evil Empire"
    here in the U. S. A.
    Last edited by ZenMaster_Flash; 09-03-2015 at 07:00 AM.

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    Feel free to email me at [email protected]

    I cannot promise quick response times, but if I see the email I will get back to it eventually.

    Flash especially, feel free to ask specific questions, as you have been very helpful to me in the past and I am happy to return the favor.

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