Is givign up -.02 % advantage too much for a card counter?

[seriousplayer]

I used the house advantage tool to calculate the house edge for six deck DAS, LS game (-.33) and eight deck DAS, LS (-.35). If a card counter were to play the eight deck game there will be a difference in advantage of -.02 for card counters. -.02 for a basic strategy player is not that much but for a card counter it could be a lot.

Is a difference in advantage of -.02 for card counters a lot?

[Three]

I used the house advantage tool to calculate the house edge for six deck DAS, LS game (-.33) and eight deck DAS, LS (-.35). If a card counter were to play the eight deck game there will be a difference in advantage of -.02 for card counters. -.02 for a basic strategy player is not that much but for a card counter it could be a lot.

Is a difference in advantage of -.02 for card counters a lot?

The edge difference is irrelevant. The differences that matter is you have to play through a lot more decks to get to the meat of the shoe. The TC frequencies all shift closer to neutral. Etc. The difference in HE is insignificant.

[KJ]

Yeah, this is something I too didn't fully understand for the longest time. (mainly when I was playing those 8 deckers back in AC). From the house advantage standpoint it looks like no big deal, but when you are playing the games, it is the far fewer frequencies of the better counts, which translates into a much lower win rate.

[Thirdbaseman]

If you are back counting, you will generally get to play more hands at an advantage when you wong into an 8 deck shoe than a 6 deck shoe.
But you will generally wait longer to wong into the 8 deck shoe.

[ZenKinG]

Play the game that gives you the least amount of attention, which generally, it will be the 8 decker. Whats the pen on each of those games? That should be your deciding factor given that those rules are good. 6-8 deckers are fine, just takes a little longer to get a nice count, but when you get a good count, it lasts for a LONG time throughout the shoe.

[Stealth]

I used the house advantage tool to calculate the house edge for six deck DAS, LS game (-.33) and eight deck DAS, LS (-.35). If a card counter were to play the eight deck game there will be a difference in advantage of -.02 for card counters. -.02 for a basic strategy player is not that much but for a card counter it could be a lot.

Is a difference in advantage of -.02 for card counters a lot?

In decision making about the games, I would refer to CVCX and input my bet structures and penetration and use those results to guide my decision. Your bet structures and penetration will have much more influence on the quality of those games than will the .02 house edge difference.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

The greater your spread the less significant is the difference between 6 and 8 deck.

But in comparing H17 to S17 the difference in e.v. is rather extreme. (0.23% of e.v. ?)

If the H17 game has LS it is as good as the S17 game without LS (approximately)

In comparing these two rule sets ~ an extra half deck of penetration (approximately) negates the difference.

Add in RSA (along with LS) and I will take the H17 over the S17 shoe game.

Of course, issues of "heat" overrides the foregoing.