Does this play work?
Coloring up with a clear win, leaving the table, and then coming back a half hour or so later with something like 1 minimum bet. You tell the dealer a sad story about roulette, progressive bet til you lose it, and then leaving very frustrated. I understand that this is a move to lose money, but it is very little and may help save some unsubtle AP play by registering a full loss instead of a win.
What do you think?
Not only does the dealer not care in the slightest, but s/he and the Pit Critter are not the ones you need to impress.
Wear an extra large white Pith Helmet, with your silly story printed on it, so that the E I T S can read it. Of course,
There'll be no record of idiotic roulette behavior in the player data base, so if anyone actually bothered to check,
you'd have "outed" yourself as an amateur A.P. Bullshitter. Best of luck. Aces and Faces to Ya'.
No. Horrible idea in many ways. You're lying, they won't decrease your win, your total lifetime win is unlikely to be a major factor until it hits at least 5 figures (if not 6), it makes no sense to draw needless attention to yourself like that, you're trying to fool the wrong person (dealer and/or floor instead of surveillance and/or senior management).
The Cash Cow.
Moo321,
You said:
" lifetime win is unlikely to be a major factor until it hits at least 5 figures (if not 6)"
That may have been true at one time, but it is quickly becoming ancient history.
Casinos are now using "Cumulative Win" as a primary reason for 86'ing
Basic Strategists and progression players, (non-counters) are being barred.
Some casinos that handle heavy action are now doing this.
e.g. Foxwoods in Connecticut and The Borgata In New Jersey.
First, I am not sure you are playing at stakes and with wins large enough to worry. Often, without ever being backed off, we begin becoming paranoid.
Second, when you are getting ready to leave, look for opportune moments to leave without coloring up. Dealer/shift changes perhaps. Maybe go to the john with all or most of your chips and then head out the door. Definitely color up or let them know you are down to book losses. stuff like that.
also, outside of Vegas, they are either not very paranoid or so sure of the bad rules and penn they have that they just do not have the surveillance staff or technology and think they are saving money. In many places, you just be careful when they pick up phones.
The ebb and flow of your BR will give you lots of chances to log losses. Picking your session end point to make your record look rather weak despite a solid steady increase in your BR is a skill in itself. One of the elitists on the sight said he got a big laugh out of my attempts to do this. Next time you are down a bunch make sure you log a loss. It is all one big session so the artificial boundaries you set up upon leaving the table only serve to make you look like you are a threat or you are just a luck comes and goes player depending on were you draw thats session end boundaries. To a degree that is an arbitrary consideration that is totally within your control. Card counting is about the long run so don't sweat the session numbers but rather use them to your advantage.Originally Posted by luckyned
ZeeBabar said:
"getting ready to leave, look for opportune moments to leave without coloring up"
Amusingly illogical comments by ZeeBabar continue apace.
How is it that he ASSUMES that the pit critter's guesstimate
of how much he is "walking with" will be LESS than correct ?
Indeed, there is motivation on the part of the pit critter to
slightly exaggerate the sum, to cover possibly missing chips.
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