Couple of questions

**Vezalke** · 10-21-2012, 11:03 PM

Hi!

I'm new to forum, so i have couple of questions...

1.) Is it matter how the dealer deal the cards? Normally it would be that dealer have one card face up, and one card face down. But in one casino, a dealer get the second card last (when all players are done hitting and standing). Is there any mathematical advantage/disadvantage?

2.) In a casino there is a early surrender option, but not against Ace. 6 decks, Stand od soft 17, DAS, No resplit aces, Double any 2 cards. What would be the best strategy (when to surrender) if i count cards with HI-Lo system?

3.) Situation: I have A 4 against dealers 3. I hit, and get a 2 (now i have soft 17). What to do...hit or stand?

4.) If I am alone at table...is it better to play one hand or 2 hands? What if there is a positive count?

Regards

**Boardwalker** · 10-22-2012, 11:00 AM

Question 1 - No, but some players think it is to the dealers advantage to take his hole card after that players have played their hands. The only advantage of this dealing procedure is for cheating dealers. It is very unlikely that you will be cheated in a najor legal casino today.

Question 2 - See Stanford Wong's Professional Blackjack for High-Low tables.

Question 3 - Hit! Never stand with soft 17.

Question 4 - Playing to hands, rather than increasing the bet at positive counts, can lower risk. This issue is probably covered in Donald Schlesinger's Blackjack Attack

**Frostbyte** · 10-29-2012, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Boardwalker

Question 1 - No, but some players think it is to the dealers advantage to take his hole card after that players have played their hands. The only advantage of this dealing procedure is for cheating dealers. It is very unlikely that you will be cheated in a najor legal casino today.

If ENHC is being used, it may increase the house edge depending on which variation of the rule is used with respect to doubles and splits.

Vezalke, what happens to double-down and split bets at these tables if the dealer gets a blackjack?

Question 4 - Playing to hands, rather than increasing the bet at positive counts, can lower risk. This issue is probably covered in Donald Schlesinger's Blackjack Attack

75% of one-hand bet played across all hands at two counts has been proven to significantly increase hourly EV and marginally decrease ROR. Norm and ZG in particular have covered this.

Also, Vezalke, where are you playing that offers S17 with ES10? And how much of the 6-deck shoe is cut off?

**brh** · 10-29-2012, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Frostbyte

If ENHC is being used, it may increase the house edge depending on which variation of the rule is used with respect to doubles and splits.

Vezalke, what happens to double-down and split bets at these tables if the dealer gets a blackjack?

75% of one-hand bet played across all hands at two counts has been proven to significantly increase hourly EV and marginally decrease ROR. Norm and ZG in particular have covered this.

Also, Vezalke, where are you playing that offers S17 with ES10? And how much of the 6-deck shoe is cut off?

Sounds maybe eastern European - we had this sort of thing with OBBO but without surrender at Crown about 100 BC.

**Frostbyte** · 10-29-2012, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by brh

Sounds maybe eastern European - we had this sort of thing with OBBO but without surrender at Crown about 100 BC.

Yeah, that was my thought from the name/grammar/description, but I've been wrong about that before.

I was under the understanding that playable blackjack in Australia had gone the way of the dodo, Welsh whiskey and pre-phylloxera grapes?

**brh** · 10-29-2012, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Frostbyte

Yeah, that was my thought from the name/grammar/description, but I've been wrong about that before.

I was under the understanding that playable blackjack in Australia had gone the way of the dodo, Welsh whiskey and pre-phylloxera grapes?

Too right it has - go and read some of Kat's posts on the Casino/Australia pages.

Mostly due to a prick called James Packer :-(

**stopgambling** · 10-29-2012, 06:41 PM

I would assume KAT is the" COUNTESS"?Anyway nice to have her here,

**brh** · 10-29-2012, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by stopgambling

I would assume KAT is the" COUNTESS"?Anyway nice to have her here,

You mean he is a she -. Hmmm ;-)

**Kat** · 10-29-2012, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by stopgambling

I would assume KAT is the" COUNTESS"?Anyway nice to have her here,

Hey, I resemble that! And BTW, Blackjack as we know it is not dead at all in Australia. You just need to git yur ass up to the the High Roller department, where they still deal from shoes and watch you like a hawk.

**Frostbyte** · 10-29-2012, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Kat

Hey, I resemble that! And BTW, Blackjack as we know it is not dead at all in Australia. You just need to git yur ass up to the the High Roller department, where they still deal from shoes and watch you like a hawk.

Two significant barriers to entry. I don't know what I'd have done with obstacles like that.

Are you the same Kat to whom we credit the SP21/Pontoon guide?

**Kat** · 10-29-2012, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Frostbyte

Two significant barriers to entry. I don't know what I'd have done with obstacles like that.

Are you the same Kat to whom we credit the SP21/Pontoon guide?

Nope. That's an Aussie she, and I'm a he... mate. And BTW, BJ in Australia is all ENHC, with no surrender. All cards are dealt face up, including the dealer's and nobody can touch the cards, except the dealer of course. No tips to dealers allowed (proscribed by State Laws.) All/any winnings are free from any tax. BJ is only 8 or 6 decks, generally around 75% pen. OBBO in one state. Casino floor games are usually well-patronized by ploppies of all races.

**brh** · 10-29-2012, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Frostbyte

Two significant barriers to entry. I don't know what I'd have done with obstacles like that.

Are you the same Kat to whom we credit the SP21/Pontoon guide?

What if you bet green or black at Crown.

A few years ago, I Wonged aggressively with 2x$50 at only TC > (+2) Hilo equivalent (BRH-I UTC > 0)' took them for $200 and ran like buggery. I' would fear for my personal safety doing that at Crown now ;-)

Brett,

**Frostbyte** · 10-29-2012, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Kat

Nope. That's an Aussie she, and I'm a he... mate. And BTW, BJ in Australia is all ENHC, with no surrender. All cards are dealt face up, including the dealer's and nobody can touch the cards, except the dealer of course. No tips to dealers allowed (proscribed by State Laws.) All/any winnings are free from any tax. BJ is only 8 or 6 decks, generally around 75% pen. OBBO in one state. Casino floor games are usually well-patronized by ploppies of all races.

The US is the last country on earth to tax gambling winnings, which is blatantly unfair when you consider that a) for all but a tiny subset of customers, they're purely illusory and b) casinos already pay gaming taxes and state and federal corporate taxes. 75% pen is, with very few exceptions, the best to be found in my region. I don't have the bankroll to be able to afford tokes. Sydney being Sydney I'm guessing there are Chinese aplenty at the tables? I speak the language and I've been wondering if at higher betting levels it might be worth including in my act.