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    Anyone care to answer..

    Assuming one is playing first, and you have one at midfield and one player at third. The midfield player makers player errors of not splitting hands (like 2's or 3's against a dealer 5 or 6), and third base ALWAYS stays on hard 16 vs. 10, 9 or Ace. Over the course of the shoe (about a third into it) you realize you are down half your buy-in and the other two are making considerable profits. As the shoe progresses to the end you are down 75% of your roll-they are up almost double..How does one overcome this? (please exclude leave the table or sit-out response..) thx..

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    How other players are doing is hardly ever relevant.
    "I don't think outside the box; I think of what I can do with the box." - Henri Matisse

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    Nothing to overcome. How others play, and whether they are up or down has nothing to do with you. Just play your game and ignore other players.

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    Yeah..Then how does one "profit" from that predicament?

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    Stop worrying about what others are doing. It doesn't affect you overall, in the long run. Some of the time it helps and sometimes it doesn't. A positive individual notices the former and a miserable negative individual notices the latter. You can make a choice of which half of the results you want to dwell on or just don't worry about it. Of the 3 options noticing the negative is the dumbest one to choose. If you want to be a happy camper notice the positive impacts they have on you. If you want to be a serious pro, don't notice anything at all or just realize whatever they do has no effect.

    Look at t this way, there are 2 cards that might go to whatever. They guy sees you have a big bet out and asks you how to play his hand so he doesn't mess you up. What do you tell him so he doesn't mess you up? Which card is the card that will help and which is the card that will hurt? Is there any way to know? Now that you went through that mental exercise do you really think those guys were messing you up? In the long run what they do makes no difference. In the short run half the time they pick the right choice and the other half they make the wrong one. Just remember that although they are doing well right now but who will be dong better after 100,000 rounds?

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    One doesn't. One profits from gaining an advantage by betting differently and playing differently according to the odds. Who cares how other players are doing? Do you take blood pressure meds because someone else at the table has hypertension?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottwilliam View Post
    Yeah..Then how does one "profit" from that predicament?
    What predicament? You are talking about variance not a predicament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottwilliam View Post
    The midfield player makers player errors of not splitting hands (like 2's or 3's against a dealer 5 or 6), and third base ALWAYS stays on hard 16 vs. 10, 9 or Ace.
    So if the count is good they are allowing you to get more rounds out of the shoe. What is there to complain about? It sounds like they are doing you a favor that gets you more max bets out in a good shoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottwilliam View Post
    Yeah..Then how does one "profit" from that predicament?
    By realizing that it is not a predicament. You profit from other factors.

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    Okay..what other factors? Yeah the count went positive at one point in the shoe (at +2) and I still lost three in a row..And I would like to restate something..If a player misplays (his/her hand)by not splitting at correct times-Do those actions affect the viability of the shoe? thx.

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    The non-splitter has infected the table with negative Karma vibes. The way to negate these negative vibes is to get up, pull your chair away from the table and circle the chair 3 times while simultaneously rubbing your belly in a counter clockwise motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottwilliam View Post
    If a player misplays (his/her hand)by not splitting at correct times-Do those actions affect the viability of the shoe?
    No. What happens in one shoe means nothing statistically.
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    Norm, just give him the 'other players' answer. That is what he needs to hear.

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