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    Sacro Illiac joint pain

    Notwithstanding my regular day to day back discomfort, I ended up in the emergency ward tonight, after about a month or so of (other) increasing back pain, which was affecting my ability to walk. Over the past week, pain levels escalated, and today, close to unbearable level.

    The prelim diagnosis is inflammation of the SI joint, likely caused by the onset of arthritis. The inflammation will hopefully decrease, and with a prescription of Celebrex (filled) and a couple of other items to be filled if the Celebrex needs a boost.

    I mention this, because it occurred to me of the possibility that the onset of this may have been caused by uncomfortable stools, the type normally found at blackjack tables. I have no idea if this was in fact the cause, but it seems to me that the possibility is definitely there. Has anyone experienced something if this nature, and if so, what steps did you take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    I mention this, because it occurred to me of the possibility that the onset of this may have been caused by uncomfortable stools, the type normally found at blackjack tables. I have no idea if this was in fact the cause, but it seems to me that the possibility is definitely there. Has anyone experienced something if this nature, and ipf do, what steps did you take.
    There are lots of different causes of joint and back pain. My troubles early in life were from inflammation of muscles and joints and would require muscle relaxers and in the worst case scenarios inactivity as a part of the recovery process. then after a bad car wreck I got an arthritic hip. When that pain got bad I thought a similar course of action would help. The pain just kept getting worse. Then I did some research and found that for arthritis inactivity is the worst thing you can do. You need to exercise the affected joint to reduce the pain. Once I realized that I started to be more active when the arthritis pain flared up. My big worry is both my arthritic hip and my sciatica will act up at the same time. Recovery for the sciatica would require inactivity but recovery from the arthritis would require increased activity. So far the two haven't struck at once.

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    My business partner has severe back issues. Most days, he goes through his routine in the morning of taking a number of different medications, spread out over a couple hours and his back 'co-operates' to the point that he can go about his daily activities, with minimal discomfort, at least for part of the day. But some days, his back does not respond to his morning medication ritual, and it's just a lost day of rest for him.

    As far as his responsibilities of our business partnership, he handles all of our machine play, but he also plays a minimal amount of blackjack at certain locations. It took me a long time (longer than it should have) to figure out that his worse back pain days were days that followed days that he played blackjack. I suspect he knew this before me, but was afraid to tell me.

    Since he is able to sit at a machine playing video poker for hours with no significant change, as well as sit in the car chauffeuring me around for hours, but 30-45 minutes of blackjack play effects him very negatively, I have concluded that it has to do with the fact that when you sit at a blackjack table, you are not using the back support at all. You basically are always leaning forward, placing wagers, collecting wagers, picking up cards, ect.

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    Freightman - I don't mean this in a derogatory way, but since we've met, I suspect that your primary causative factor is weight. Certainly other things can contribute to it, such as lifting, positioning, and so on. Hope you feel better!

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    In order of importance (and cost effectiveness):
    1) Weight loss, if BMI > 25
    2) Back exercises and stretching, yoga
    3) Steroid injection of SI joint (requires fluroscopy)

    1&2 are essential. #3 without them is futile. Like trying to win at a shoe game with I18 and flat betting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Freightman - I don't mean this in a derogatory way, but since we've met, I suspect that your primary causative factor is weight. Certainly other things can contribute to it, such as lifting, positioning, and so on. Hope you feel better!
    Weight is a factor in the original back pain, which is more muscle related. Ironically, about 20 years ago, I was minding my own business, stopped at a red light, when a freightliner truck forgot to stop and rear ended me. The impact knocked my car into the intersection, where my car was then tboned. Back has hurt since, and yes, it is exacerbated by weight. I considered the crappy casino chairs as being a factor on the sacro issue - another possibility may have been years of walking poorly. This would be a result of numerous foot ankle injuries from my younger athletic days (when I was built like a Greek God), and the Unusual cumulative wear and tear resulting from that. It seems now that times have changed ( no offence to anybody), and that now I'm built like a GD Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    another possibility may have been years of walking poorly. This would be a result of numerous foot ankle injuries from my younger athletic days (when I was built like a Greek God), and the Unusual cumulative wear and tear resulting from that. It seems now that times have changed ( no offence to anybody), and that now I'm built like a GD Greek.
    This is a problem many don't think about. You never get enough out of rehab to lose a limp. The unnatural movement then wears out other joints and you have new issues. A friend had a hip problem. He got it replaced but never completed therapy enough to lose the limp. He later needed on knee replaced and then the other. Each time he never worked to get were he needed to be in therapy and wore out another joint. I am certain it would have ended with the hip replacement if he finished rehabbing to the point of a walk without abnormal movement.

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    I have a history of serious back problems, too lengthy to list.

    Consult an M.D. In your area who is a Pain Specialist.

    They generally have board certification in either

    anesthesiology or physiatry (physical rehabilitation)
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    For years I've been part of a team that forces its members to follow a strict physical routine.
    This team recruits young players and their physical condition is a very important factor.
    At first I didnt understand this much, but now I do.
    Physical health is important to excel in every single aspect of life, bj included.
    During training, on top of being taught about basic strategy, indices and counting, in this team new players get lessons on yoga, stretching, functional training, breathing techniques and how to follow a proper diet (they even have a nutriotionist and a physical trainer to personally help players).
    Abiding by this rules is a must to be a part of this team.

    This has nothing to do with your problem Freightman, but I thought it would be interesting to bring this up isnce I find it to be a very interesting topic.
    The only one I have seen write about stuff like this as an important part of AP was Ian Anderson.
    That book instantly became my favourite one after reading that section.

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