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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
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    on another note, assume you receive a 2 card 17, the dealer has an 8 showing, she fumbles her HC and you at 3rd base get a quick glimpse of the 10 under. Dealer has 18 and you know it. Do you hit? If you hit and get a 2-3, win the hand, will the casino pay? Are you now done with that casino, they have identified you as a CC or Hole carder?
    I have never done this before, but something tells me you have a ten in the hole. I know I am not supposed to hit this hand and it goes against everything I believe in, but when you get that irrepressible feeling, what can you do? Here goes! Hit me! [Eyes tightly shut] [Now peeking out of one eye] Sh*t! I know I shouldn't hit a 17! I'm the biggest idiot who ever played!

    Or--
    [Peeking out of one eye} A three! What a play that was! Now turn over that ten! [Dealer turns a jack] I can't believe it! Someone up there likes me [To self-- and I don't mean the EITS-- lol]

    Let them bar me. Believe me, they never will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    In a similar dealer error, where a dealer dealt herself a 4, hole card was a 10, then a 2, an Ace and yet another Ace. The PB ruled that the extra Ace cannot be used in settling bets AND then said that I at first base would be receiving the extra Ace as my first card. I was playing $25 and the other player, the dealer and the PB allowed me to up my bet. I did the polite thing and added $50 (total bet $75). Unfortunately, I got a 3 and an 8 and then busted with a 10. I "lucked out", been crucified on another forum for not playing the table max.

    on another note, assume you receive a 2 card 17, the dealer has an 8 showing, she fumbles her HC and you at 3rd base get a quick glimpse of the 10 under. Dealer has 18 and you know it. Do you hit? If you hit and get a 2-3, win the hand, will the casino pay? Are you now done with that casino, they have identified you as a CC or Hole carder?
    Depends on size of wager. But, yeah, hit it.
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    If it wasn't a real HC game and just a random flash (and you are sure) then hit. If it's a good HC game just eat it and hit better spots

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    On an Ace up bj , I had them call it a 21.The other case there is no difference,no push ,play as it is.

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    Just to bring this back around and to clarify.. I'm not interesting in the specific incident that I mentioned. What I really would like to know is what is an acceptable resolution to dealer errors. Contrary to how we look at things in reality one hand of Blackjack is a single game of blackjack that stands on its own. So if any error occurs on that had by fault of the dealer what resolution steps are appropriate. Maybe if we simplified things to one location like Vegas. What does the Nevada Gaming require of Casinos where a dealer error occurs?

    I know that one could look at it and say that any dealer error should result in a canceled hand or push because the "rules" were not followed. Since there are very specific rules for how the game is to be dealt and deviation is a violation of the rules. Now mind you I am not one that wants to draw attention unless it was a very serious error that needs address. Still I wonder what the litmus test is for these scenarios.

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    I have been "cheated" by a dealer deliberately (I think) dealing past my ace, which would have resulted in a Blackjack. The pit informed me that he is prohibited from shifting the cards backwards once dealt. I could either get another card, which I did, or my hand could be void. The other card did not help. The pit then said that I could choose not to play the hand. I don't remember what I chose, but I think it was to play and I ended up losing the hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    I have been "cheated" by a dealer deliberately (I think) dealing past my ace, which would have resulted in a Blackjack. The pit informed me that he is prohibited from shifting the cards backwards once dealt. I could either get another card, which I did, or my hand could be void. The other card did not help. The pit then said that I could choose not to play the hand. I don't remember what I chose, but I think it was to play and I ended up losing the hand.
    Did you have a significant wager on the table at the time?

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    Each jurisdiction has its own regulations. Here is AC's. Note Chapter 19:47-2.15 (irregularities):

    http://www.newjersey.gov/casinos/act...r47/c47s02.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    Did you have a significant wager on the table at the time?
    Probably not. It was a pitch game and my max bet is usually not that significant, but it was the brazenous of the thing that irked me.

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