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    Civil Forfeiture: A Beginner's Guide

    Finally this issue is getting a little press. You'll laugh, you'll cry...but mostly cry.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks

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    I read or heard that roughly 20% of the income for the Philadelphia DA office comes in from civil forfeitures. They have become used to or reliant upon what amounts to preying on their citizens and stealing from them. That Nevada cop shown in the video got his own little news report at one point in which a reporter interviewed him. That was an eye opener. He claimed to use some sort of Barnaby Jones like special cop intuition on who to clip for their cash because they're probably up to no good because no one drives through the state of Nevada with any cash on them unless they're up to no good? Something like that. He robs anyone driving down the roadways with any significant amount of cash on them! I need to make sure I avoid driving down that stretch of Nevada highway, apparently. These days you have to worry about getting robbed by the police just as much as getting robbed by the bad guys because the cops are also the bad guys, it seems!

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    Sonny and Tarzan are very, very correct in their alarm. There is also a very serious point here that this activity violates the USA Constitution, Bill Of Rights, in the most blatant manner, time for the citizens to aggressively push back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Civil Forfeiture is the biggest threat to AP's.

    Below is a link to a report that was done in Tennessee, it is truly sickening.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU_nh51FU14
    Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes, by then you are a mile away and have his shoes.

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    "Everything paid for with seizures and fines" 2:31

    Future employment is motivation for these law enforcement thieves. No seizures, no job.

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    That's why bitcoin is an AP's greatest ally.
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    If you want to overturn civil forfeiture laws, consider supporting the Institute for Justice. They are a public interest law firm that fights these types of cases, including a case against Philadelphia's forfeiture racket. They have also fought IRS seizures for "structuring" violations.
    The Cash Cow.

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    We should definitely fight but big money casino patrons should just avoid Nevada and Philadelphia casinos until they are safe carrying their money. Tell the casino why you aren't going to come anymore. Enough people call the casino management and say they no longer feel safe bringing large sums of cash because the police may seize it. This may help change police policy while we work on changing the law.

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    Bitcoin will eliminate this type of abuse. Casinos should permit wagering denominated in bitcoin. It's so long overdue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    Bitcoin will eliminate this type of abuse. Casinos should permit wagering denominated in bitcoin. It's so long overdue.
    For many reasons, no.

    First, bitcoin is too volatile. I wouldn't gamble in any medium where the exchange rate changes so drastically. (Getting into and out of bitcoin is a gamble in itself.)

    Second, it's not practical to cash out in bitcoin. I don't particularly feel like standing at the cage for 10 minutes to verify that there hasn't been a double spend on the blockchain.
    May the cards fall in your favor.

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