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    Is 100 max bets enough?

    What up Blackjack the Stack?

    I got 100 max bets. I play good pen 6 & 8 deck games, I wong out when it's time to leave, to go to the bathroom or when the dealer gets hot all during very negative shoes and spread around eight to one. I occasionally "sit one out" when the dealer gets hot and the count is negative. I also use matchplays and play during promotional times when possible. Additionally, I sometimes play the Lucky Lady tables and keep a side count of queen of hearts and play true +6 (which I adjust to any lack or abundance of queens of hearts) and once in a while off the top for cover. I keep dealer errors and probably average ~ a minimum bet every four hours or so as an error bonus. I push my max bet at true four and up. Is 100 enough in this situation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by evenmoney View Post
    I got 100 max bets. I play good pen 6 & 8 deck games, I wong out when it's time to leave...I play push my max bet at true four and up. Is 100 enough in this situation?
    your spread makes a diff...40, 20, 12?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharky View Post
    your spread makes a diff...40, 20, 12?
    I spread 8-1 at the quarter tables ~13-1 at the 15 minimums, but I generally escape any true -3 or worse by finding an excuse to wong out.

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    So you have 20k? Anyway a 8-1 spread with the strategy you use is not going to get it done but you still have enough to beat quarter games if the rules are decent.

    Back count and come in at +2 playing 2 hands of 50 chipping up to 2x150 at +5. Drop to 1 hand of table min if count drops and leave the table completely at -1. Unless it's near the end of the shoe, find another fresh shuffle at another table, there is no reason to go back to the same table, that is just a waste of time when you could be counting more cards and generating more expectation. If anybody asks just tell the truth that you "didn't feel lucky at that table anymore". Another thing you can do in a large casino is have your spot saved, go to another pit and count down another shoe. If that shoe looks promising you come in and play there, if not you go back to your old spot when it hits the shuffle.

    If back counting isn't your thing or you are playing at a no mid shoe casino then just start with 1 hand of table min, spreading to a max bet of 2x150, and leave the table at -1. Yes, this will involve playing only 2-3 hands some shoes, live with it. You only have 20k, you can't afford to give the casino an edge, and nobody gives a shit about a player with a max bet of $300 unless you play really small time casinos anyway.

    Let me put it another way, 100 max bets (or 67 times a 2xMax bet) is plenty if the caisno allows mid shoe entry and you avoid betting when the casino has the edge. The key is to always be doing one of two things in a casino - counting cards or looking for a fresh shoe. Oh, and number three is looking for dealers that flash the hole card. LOL.
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    Spread bigger. Exit the Table sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggg View Post
    So you have 20k? Anyway a 8-1 spread with the strategy you use is not going to get it done but you still have enough to beat quarter games if the rules are decent.

    Back count and come in at +2 playing 2 hands of 50 chipping up to 2x150 at +5. Drop to 1 hand of table min if count drops and leave the table completely at -1. Unless it's near the end of the shoe, find another fresh shuffle at another table, there is no reason to go back to the same table, that is just a waste of time when you could be counting more cards and generating more expectation. If anybody asks just tell the truth that you "didn't feel lucky at that table anymore". Another thing you can do in a large casino is have your spot saved, go to another pit and count down another shoe. If that shoe looks promising you come in and play there, if not you go back to your old spot when it hits the shuffle.

    If back counting isn't your thing or you are playing at a no mid shoe casino then just start with 1 hand of table min, spreading to a max bet of 2x150, and leave the table at -1. Yes, this will involve playing only 2-3 hands some shoes, live with it. You only have 20k, you can't afford to give the casino an edge, and nobody gives a shit about a player with a max bet of $300 unless you play really small time casinos anyway.

    Let me put it another way, 100 max bets (or 67 times a 2xMax bet) is plenty if the caisno allows mid shoe entry and you avoid betting when the casino has the edge. The key is to always be doing one of two things in a casino - counting cards or looking for a fresh shoe. Oh, and number three is looking for dealers that flash the hole card. LOL.
    Your strategy won't work at my local casino. Ploppies always ask new comers to wait for a new shoe even only one deck dealt out. I said it is my money. Then ploppies asked for the pit boss. Sometimes pit boss will bring the no mid shoe entry sign or just ask new comers to respect other players' wish. What will you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    Your strategy won't work at my local casino. Ploppies always ask new comers to wait for a new shoe even only one deck dealt out. I said it is my money. Then ploppies asked for the pit boss. Sometimes pit boss will bring the no mid shoe entry sign or just ask new comers to respect other players' wish. What will you do?
    Tell them if they are going to put the NMS entry sign, they must leave it all night. Ill do it at every single table until all signs are on the table. And then laugh at all the pit bosses looking at all their potential money leavin the casino. I think they will come to their senses and let others play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenKinG View Post
    Tell them if they are going to put the NMS entry sign, they must leave it all night. Ill do it at every single table until all signs are on the table. And then laugh at all the pit bosses looking at all their potential money leavin the casino. I think they will come to their senses and let others play.
    Who says they must leave it all night? You are going to dictate to the casino what they can and can not do? Good luck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ View Post
    Who says they must leave it all night? You are going to dictate to the casino what they can and can not do? Good luck with that.
    Ok, if they don't Ill enter. Do you get my reasoning now? Either way I win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenKinG View Post
    Ok, if they don't Ill enter. Do you get my reasoning now? Either way I win.
    No, I don't 'get' your reasoning ZenKing. They could just kick you out and continue doing what they please. Or they could bet restrict you. I would say any such attention getting stunt, especially at a local place that you frequent often, like BJGenius was talking about, is not only a -EV move, but a career ending move at that place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ View Post
    No, I don't 'get' your reasoning ZenKing. They could just kick you out and continue doing what they please. Or they could bet restrict you. I would say any such attention getting stunt, especially at a local place that you frequent often, like BJGenius was talking about, is not only a -EV move, but a career ending move at that place.
    Yea and they will continue losing profit on the players who can't enter mid shoe. And I laugh my way out of there until they eventually understand they're idiots and i come back and play midshoe wonging

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenKinG View Post
    Yea and they will continue losing profit on the players who can't enter mid shoe. And I laugh my way out of there until they eventually understand they're idiots and i come back and play midshoe wonging
    What?? They bar you or back you off from blackjack or flat bet you, but allow everyone else to play regularly including mid shoe entry, how is that costing them anything. They don't HAVE to let you play and they aren't going to let you dictate rules and procedures to them. If you make yourself a nuisance, they get rid of you.

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