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    When to move over

    In a casino I play, there is often 1 DD game and next to it is one 6deck game. Sometimes, ploppies join my DD table and from 2 players, it goes to 4 players or 5 players while the nearby 6 deck game may have only 1 or 2 players playing it. Both games are $25 min. And cut great, the Dd game at about half deck or 70% penn and the 6 deck game at about 1.2 decks cut off.

    i prefer the DD game but wonder if it's better playing the 6 deck game than playing with more than 2-3 others at the DD game?

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    I had something similar happen to me awhile back on a DD game. It seems like a lot of people are too scared to take on the dealer heads up in a BJ game because of superstition. As soon as they see one brave soul take the seat, their jumping ship to come and join you. Pay attention to the faces because there could be a small chance that they could be casino shills. I wouldn't put it past the casino to resort to such low-ball/off-the-wall tactics to squeeze a few extra bucks out of patron.
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    I'd hop back and forth all day and all night. 6d heads up with good pen is pretty sweet. Let them get the DD sweat and heat. If/when they jump ship as Blitzkrieg suggested, I'd go back to the juicy DD.
    “You aren’t making money until your money is making money.”

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    Going to need a large spread for that 6d, how will pit react when you are betting huge one one and much smaller on other, assuming you are playing to the minimum.
    Maman died today. Or yesterday maybe, I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    I had something similar happen to me awhile back on a DD game. It seems like a lot of people are too scared to take on the dealer heads up in a BJ game because of superstition. As soon as they see one brave soul take the seat, their jumping ship to come and join you like flies on shit. Pay attention to the faces because there could be a small chance that they could be casino shills. I wouldn't put it past the casino to resort to such low-ball/off-the-wall tactics to squeeze a few extra bucks out of patron.
    Dude, like clockwork, I'll watch a table go stagnant for 20-30 minutes without a single soul sitting down. The second I sit down, within a few minutes I've got a second player, then two more come and plop down. Annoys the shit out of me like you wouldn't believe. Its even worse when I've got a huge count going and have to grind through it with a ton of elbows on the table because I don't want to leave a truly advantageous count.

    Quote Originally Posted by AP360 View Post
    I'd hop back and forth all day and all night. 6d heads up with good pen is pretty sweet. Let them get the DD sweat and heat. If/when they jump ship as Blitzkrieg suggested, I'd go back to the juicy DD.
    Bingo. I know ZK's "Location" says table hopping, but really its what I seem to do more than anything. Partially because I need to force a loss to the system, partially because of bad players, and partially because I've been keeping an eye on a game about to be shuffled 2 pits over and want to backcount it before I choose to sit down.

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    If you can get heads up on the 6dk you'll probably win way more money with far less heat than playing the 2 dk game with 3 other players. You might get up to 3x more rounds per hour so it would take a pretty awesome 2dk game to beat a good 6dk game dealt very fast. (not to mention far less heat, bigger spreads, and less need for cover). Most casinos that deal pitch games are so concerned about counters on those games that they ignore the shoes.

    One additional option, play the shoes, when the count tanks, move over to the 2dk game for 2 shuffles until the dealer dumps the 6dk shoe and either spreads the cards or begins to shuffle, then move right back to the shoe game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    Most casinos that deal pitch games are so concerned about counters on those games that they ignore the shoes.
    Absolutely... I have never caught a CC on a 6D on my own... Never have the time to sit and stare at a shoe from the burn card all the way through to the cut card. I would usually look for high bets and BS deviations on those high bets. Then request count checks from the sky and let them make a decision. SD and DD I would have enough time to multitask between shuffles while also keeping the count.

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