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    so what exactly are your rights on indian land?

    or do you have none?

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    They are what the Indians say they are. If you end up in court it will be in an Indian court with Indian judges etc.

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    It is still the United States and your home state is still responsible for prosecution of criminal acts if you're not a native American, but in terms of Civil Law, Tribal Law has controlling authority so if you want to sue a tribal member or employee you'd have to do it in Tribal Courts which means things will be stacked against you. Further, if you want to sue the Tribe itself, as a sovereign nation it can invoke immunity from lawsuits and simply tell you "F" off. Your option at that point would be to try to get the case into Federal Courts which is very expensive and Federal Courts seldom overrule Tribal Sovereign Immunity. Further stacking the odds in your favor is that everyone, even the local non-tribal police, are on the payroll of the tribe so they will not be neutral in any situation you might have.

    In other words, technically the Constitution still applies but good luck getting access to it. You'd best treat tribal reservations like a foreign country.

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    Thanks for the longer version BP. It is helpful to know why it all boils down to your rights are what the Indians say the are.

    It is like saying some states can't back you off. Technically it is true but what they can do amounts to the same thing if you are an AP. You will choose it isn't worth playing.
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    As others have mentioned, your rights are what they decide they are. If you find a game on tribal land, proceed with caution. I won't go as far to say not to play (I've played many games on tribal lands). As with every situation, you must adjust your game. Don't get greedy and know when to leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    If you end up in court it will be in an Indian court with Indian judges etc.
    Not correct. The Indian courts only have jurisdiction over their tribe members, per OUR Supreme Court.

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    Where did the incident go down?
    The Cash Cow.

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    Most of those joints are run by big corps now, fuck worst case now adays the back off and no return, IMHO

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    Some of the best games around are in Tribal casinos. If you are a smartazz you can get your butt literally kicked, and as said by Bigg, in reality you have no rights. One of the scariest places I have played is the Bad River Casino, Wisc., and the Kewadin's, with their tribal police, can inflict injustice on a lonely country road as you drive from the casino. What both these places have in common is being in very, very rural and very Native lands. However, I do love Native casinos, just watch you azz.

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    I wouldnt even trust any indian casinos. Most of them probably rig the games. I personally would never play in them, not because im scared physically of what they can do if they catch me, but because of my paranoia of their rigged games. They would need like 5 security guards to take me down, and even then i wouldnt give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenKinG View Post
    I wouldnt even trust any indian casinos. Most of them probably rig the games. I personally would never play in them, not because im scared physically of what they can do if they catch me, but because of my paranoia of their rigged games. They would need like 5 security guards to take me down, and even then i wouldnt give up
    Until you took a blackjack to the back of the head, and I don't mean the 3:2 or 6:5 variety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenKinG View Post
    I wouldnt even trust any indian casinos. Most of them probably rig the games. I personally would never play in them, not because im scared physically of what they can do if they catch me, but because of my paranoia of their rigged games. They would need like 5 security guards to take me down, and even then i wouldnt give up
    Ever think of joining the WWE, maybe even the UFC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouchez View Post
    Ever think of joining the WWE, maybe even the UFC!
    Yeah, you might be onto something. After all being a self promoting BS artist is the job requirement.

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