Nine Count System or Fletcher System?

[neocacher]

Does anyone have any details on these systems sold by Russ Hunter (His videos are on you tube)? Also there are several videos on you tube now stating why card counting no longer works. I value opinions because I am a newbie what was going to start learning the hi-lo count. Thanks!

[hitthat16]

Scam.

[Norm]

Why would anyone go to YouTube for knowledge on any subject?

The guy behind these is a long-time fraud. His "address" is a UPS store. His emails are phony. Had to go after him ten years ago for trademark infringement.

[MidniteToker]

Also there are several videos on you tube now stating why card counting no longer works.

Here's the thing. You're saying this in the hopes that someone here says different. There's a problem with that: you're just substituting blind trust in one source for blind trust in another source. What you really need to do to get a valuable answer to that question is to learn about counting and learn enough that you can figure it out yourself, in the conditions you'd operate in.

You need to learn what card counting does and why it works, you need to make up your own mind with your own understanding of the subject. That'll come with a lot of study, so hit the books, get Norm's software (or write your own), and start trying to understand what this is all about.

You'll get much further this way than 99.9% of beginners who rely on youtube videos or generic web pages about counting or someone on a messageboard somewhere who told you what to do. Thing is, the road ahead is long and arduous, and it'll take a lot of effort. A lot of beginners really don't have the motivation that's needed to do this.

[Skull]

Here's the thing. You're saying this in the hopes that someone here says different. There's a problem with that: you're just substituting blind trust in one source for blind trust in another source. What you really need to do to get a valuable answer to that question is to learn about counting and learn enough that you can figure it out yourself, in the conditions you'd operate in.

You need to learn what card counting does and why it works, you need to make up your own mind with your own understanding of the subject. That'll come with a lot of study, so hit the books, get Norm's software (or write your own), and start trying to understand what this is all about.

You'll get much further this way than 99.9% of beginners who rely on youtube videos or generic web pages about counting or someone on a messageboard somewhere who told you what to do. Thing is, the road ahead is long and arduous, and it'll take a lot of effort. A lot of beginners really don't have the motivation that's needed to do this.

FANTASTIC answer!! For blackjack or for any other endeavour one might be thinking of.