Which is More Effective: KO or Red 7

**DaveATC** · 02-11-2014, 03:39 PM

I know this is a rather novice question since, based on the counting method alone, they are very similar. But if someone who is only a few years into studying the game and trying to find what suits them is asking where do you lean?

**Chacal** · 02-11-2014, 04:07 PM

Depends on rules and penetration.

**DaveATC** · 02-11-2014, 04:43 PM

I usually play in AC, so we're talking 8 Decks

**Chacal** · 02-11-2014, 04:54 PM

KO performs better with deeper pen.

**zebaustin** · 02-11-2014, 09:20 PM

most any system is valid......just pick the one that suits you best and perfect it!

**ZenKinG** · 02-11-2014, 09:24 PM

hi lo

**muckz** · 02-11-2014, 11:34 PM

KO it's so easy, and because it is easy to convert to TKO. Play TKO with -1/6 (~40) indices and it is just as good as hilo with 150+ indices for shoe games.

If you don't plan on playing a lot then the system doesn't really matter.

**DaveATC** · 02-13-2014, 05:39 PM

Thanks, I'm currently nose deep in Knock-Out BJ

**Slacker13** · 02-13-2014, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by DaveATC

Thanks, I'm currently nose deep in Knock-Out BJ

go ahead and pick up "The Color of Blackjack" by Daniel Dravot.

**Slacker13** · 02-13-2014, 10:57 PM

it takes KO to the next level

**DaveATC** · 02-14-2014, 07:56 AM

thanks I'll keep that in mind once I finish

**bebe** · 02-14-2014, 12:41 PM

Remember ko is set to to be accurate (pivot) +4 ,red 7 at +2 so shallow pen red 7
normal to deep pen ko. Like another member said ko can be taken to tko for even better results.

**Skull** · 02-20-2014, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by Slacker13

go ahead and pick up "The Color of Blackjack" by Daniel Dravot.

Sorry if I am digressing from the topic, but a quick question: is the Color of Blackjack really good?
I mean, have you been able to test/sim the technique described there with good results?

My problem is that his website seems to be like one of those thousands of stock market-related websites that tries to sell you "revolutionary" trading systems as your salvation. All those pictures and expressions such as "holy grail"..... I am suspicious.

And then I went to Amazon to check it out and it's more expensive than most of the classic BJ books, but it is only 78 pages long!

I love books and I am preparing my next round of buying BJ books, but I don't know.... very tempting to "squeeze every last drop from KO" without true counting, but I don't know....