Effect of Removal

[moses]

Delete

[Nyne]

All that really matters at the end of the day is what the SCORE is for the system you are using and the conditions you face. That's it. In general, if you are spreading your bets a decent amount you are going to get a better SCORE if the tags are correlated to the effect of removal. You may occasionally face conditions where you have a strong off the top edge and don't wish to get tossed for spreading, so then you'd be better off using a count designed to optimize your playing decisions and EOR for betting becomes meaningless since you aren't using that information for betting anyway. Realistically, that will be a small enough percentage of your total play that it is probably not worth learning a different count just for these situations. But either way, the best count is the one that gives the best SCORE for the conditions you are playing in, including factoring in your error rate and any advanced tactics you are using.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

Moses,

Your initial question was about E.O.R.

Read The Theory of Blackjack (preferably the 6th ed.)

to see the E.O.R. for each card rank by hand matchup.

Only then can you see the real E.O.R.'s that you are

concerned with, especially for the 8's.


"SCORE" is not like a numerical score in a basketball game.

It is an acronym.

You claim that you read "Blackjack Attack", then it is perfectly

Obvious that you know what "SCORE" means and how it is computed.

[bigplayer]

SCORE is an acronym meaning

Standardized Comparison of Risk and Expectation

By definition it is your EV per 100 Rounds when optimally betting full Kelly to a $10,000 bankroll. It is a way to make apples to apples comparisons of your EV of different rules sets and penetration levels. You can do the same with DI (Desirability Index) except that DI is non-linear. A DI of 10 is 4x better than a game with a DI of 5. SCORE, on the other hand, is linear.

[Three]

Ace reckoned counts can only do so much PE wise. Most of your most frequent plays the ace is a low card for the matchups. Ace reckoned counts count the ace as a high card.

[Nyne]

Opinion doesn't mean anything. All that matters is how it effects the risk adjusted return. Clearly a higher PE is better, but what is the trade-off? That can only be accurately answered by simulation.

[Three]

Didn't these figures provided in Norms book come from simulations?

Nyne is talking about monetary sim results. Believe it or not you can be playing higher PE and BC and still not be making as much money when betting both optimally. It is all in how it interacts with your betting ramp to determine the hourly return.