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    It IS possible. And if you play basic strategy already, your chances have improved even more. Do NOT veer from basic especially if you do not count. If possible, learn hilo and just use it for betting variations. If you only have 12hrs, this should take no more then 1. With 11 hrs left, hail mary your BR and hope for the best. Keep in mind i do NOT reccommend this. Though i can work (especialy if you learn hi lo)
    Otherwise, your best bet as a GAMBLER, is to subject your BR to the house edge for as little as possible. Meaning, bet alot, and dont plan on playing for the whole 12hrs. $1,000hands? Or more, idk. But if your gambling, then just go for it and dont waste time. The house edge will crush you over time.

    BUT if you combine both techniques (hail mary + hilo for betting /w basic) you can DRAMATICALLY improve your chances by using a bet spread. So take an hour or 2 to get hilo down, learn to true count, and then hail mary that ish.
    Backcount. Jump in at +2TC, wong out at TC0. Spread from 1% to 10% of your BR. So with 6K itd be a $60-$600 spread. Wack wack wack at them tables no mercy.
    Just my advice if i was desperate.

    ~Pac

    Ps. I seriously would advice NOT DOING THIS WITHOUT KNOWING HOW TO COUNT!! Gamblings baaad.

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    The house edge under proper basic strategy for these rules, assuming LS, 3:2, Split to 4 hands, etc:

    0.45851%

    Means you should expect to lose $0.46 for every $100 bet, $6k do your math.
    You can change that advantage a little bit in your favor just counting cards...

    Rudy.

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    Go for it!!!
    Buy in for $4k, wait for a 4 of clubs to appear, and then bet it all on the next hand. This works every time.
    Investors???

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    Put $4,000 on the pass line and hope you win.

    If you don't, well you're screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbuck View Post
    Go for it!!!
    Buy in for $4k, wait for a 4 of clubs to appear, and then bet it all on the next hand. This works every time.
    Investors???
    Yes, this does work but I always wait for the 2 of hearts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cray Cray View Post
    I'm not looking for a system or any help in this endeavor fellas. I'm merely asking what my statistical odds are of successfully turning the 6k into 10k in a single day of BJ. That's all.
    cray cray, hard to get a simple answer if you dont attend the church of counters--no answer, just efforts to convert. i am not a math wizard but 3 hours play at 80 hands/hour has a 2/3 chance of varying 18 units or more. 6 hours--25 units. 9hours--31 and 12 hours--36. your "unit" will be whatever your "average bet size" is and that is hard to say since you will vary it depending on what happens. i think you have an excellent chance of losing or winning a little and a smaller chance of winning or losing big. if willing to risk the 6000, a 75$ starting bet size is big enough to give you prospects to "easily" get the 4000 if you catch a streak (assuming you get your share of 4 unit 300$ bets out and win a few). i think your likelihood of pulling it off is around 30% (this assumes that if, late in your effort it isnt happening, that you are willing to more aggressively risk 6000 loss and increase your bets in last-ditch, hail mary hope of catching a run)---good luck.

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    Please ignore anything hardin county boy posts. He has no idea what he is talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Please ignore anything hardin county boy posts. He has no idea what he is talking about.
    cray, norm is giving pretty good advice, though maybe a tad exaggerated. so far none of us have suggested what i think is BEST likelihood of casino way to make 66% on your banroll in less than 12 hours: put 4080$ on BANK in baccarat with slightly> 50% chance you will win and they will collect 80$, 5%, commission.

    should this lose, bet the remainder same way. if loses you are done. if wins, bet the 3774 and if THAT wins bet 2772 and if that wins you got your 4000. odds of that are only about one in eight but, not bad, given that makes your overall prospects greater than 50%. i will leave it to those who DO have an idea what they are talking about to tell you their confidence level of counting with that bankroll and goal for 12 hours but please ignore anyone who suggests it is greater than 50%.

    also, i will feel much better about this if you dont randomly place the BANKER bet but rather, place it ONLY after a 4 of clubs OR 2 of hearts appears. also, if you lose the first bet but win the second, i suggest you close that session and go eat and then come back for a new session------none of this changes your prospects, but with 12 hours, i will just FEEL much better about it.

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    "Gambling is frowned upon in this establishment!"

    Quote Originally Posted by hardin county boy View Post
    cray, norm is giving pretty good advice, though maybe a tad exaggerated. so far none of us have suggested what i think is BEST likelihood of casino way to make 66% on your banroll in less than 12 hours: put 4080$ on BANK in baccarat with slightly> 50% chance you will win and they will collect 80$, 5%, commission.

    should this lose, bet the remainder same way. if loses you are done. if wins, bet the 3774 and if THAT wins bet 2772 and if that wins you got your 4000. odds of that are only about one in eight but, not bad, given that makes your overall prospects greater than 50%. i will leave it to those who DO have an idea what they are talking about to tell you their confidence level of counting with that bankroll and goal for 12 hours but please ignore anyone who suggests it is greater than 50%.

    also, i will feel much better about this if you dont randomly place the BANKER bet but rather, place it ONLY after a 4 of clubs OR 2 of hearts appears. also, if you lose the first bet but win the second, i suggest you close that session and go eat and then come back for a new session------none of this changes your prospects, but with 12 hours, i will just FEEL much better about it.

    Really? Seriously? Are you really testing that ledge? Trying to see how close to the edge you can get before falling?


    Norm had already posted the most sensible response with post # 2. All the others are just goofing around.

    On the other hand, you're seriously advising someone how to gamble. Your advice is similar to telling an alcoholic where he can buy cheaper booze. Then, of course, fellow alcoholics know the best places for alcohol.




    I believe "Gambling is frowned upon in this establishment!" ... So is riding a dog like it's a small horse.


    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    The National Council on Problem Gambling has a 24 hour hotline at 1-800-522-4700.
    http://www.ncpgambling.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1
    Last edited by Math Demon; 09-13-2013 at 08:41 AM.
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    Handicapping is EXTREMELY hard! All statistical evidence (and game insights) may indicate strongly a specific outcome, winner, or continuing trend; but a turn-over, a missed field goal, an erroneous call, a key injury, etc. can easily change the outcome, the margins, and/or the totals. Division rivalry games and games with playoff implications are highly unpredictable.

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    I know a way... Lol.

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    Mr BJ75 "I know a way... Lol."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Math Demon View Post

    Really? Seriously?
    I believe "Gambling is frowned upon in this establishment!"
    demon, you smart enough to do the math, you gotta be smart enough to know "disadvantage forum" would suggest to most english readers a place in which disadvantage play is discussed. common sense suggests that one NOT post disadvantaged play items outside this thread. similarly, good manners might suggest not inserting advantage play "advice" and insults into a FORUM for disadvantaged play. this might help:
    fo·rum

    noun \?fo?r-?m\ : a meeting at which a subject can be discussed
    : a place or opportunity for discussing a subject

    cray asked a question and he is full grown, as am i, and neither of us need nor asked for advantage play advice and, speaking for myself, i am not asking to be insulted in a well-run forum on the subject of blackjack, when i post disadvantaged play conversation in the disadvantage forum.

    i gave cray, who is in a tight spot, the highest percentage shot i could come up with in a casino---if you can meet his goal with better than 50% probability by counting, please post THAT in the appropriate forum.

    thanks.

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    Hey hey, my post was very sensible. Just learn hi lo bro. It should take no more than an hour. Use it for bet variations while using basic. Wong out of negative counts. Table hop. And you've significantly increased your odds vs randomly betting and hoping to catch a lucky break. Your "luck" will improve if you only play positive counts

    Though it IS Friday the 13th. Perhaps you should wait ;P

    ~Pac

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