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    Opposition betting

    Does anyone have good advice on opposition betting for the purpose of cover? Thanks!

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    The cover- betting concept in Dynamic Blackjack by R. Reid is more useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    The cover- betting concept in Dynamic Blackjack by R. Reid is more useful.
    Isn't that harder to find than Ex CAA though?
    "One of these days in your travels, you are going to come across a guy with a nice brand new deck of cards, and this guy is going to offer to bet you that he can make the Jack of Spades jump out of the deck and squirt cider in your ear. But, son, do not take this bet, for if you do, as sure as you are standing there, you are going to end up with an ear full of cider."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    The cover- betting concept in Dynamic Blackjack by R. Reid is more useful.
    Thank you. I found the thread from June that describes this.

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    I will research dynamic blackjack lead s outlined.

    Snyder's book, Blackbelt in Blackjack, has excellent material on the subject, and the beauty is that this cover makes money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Snyder's book, Blackbelt in Blackjack, has excellent material on the subject, and the beauty is that this cover makes money.
    Totally agree. This is where I first read of it. Wondered if anyone has used it and has any further advice.

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    I think George C did much research in this area of opposition betting for cover purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussiePlayer View Post
    Isn't that harder to find than Ex CAA though?
    I can find it easily. It's a brick of bytes on my hard drive. I can't open it since I upgraded four computers ago. Beware of DRM; you own nothing.

    From memory, it is another Intro book with its own share of useful small innovations, written by one of our math luminaries from yesteryear. It was a good book as far as that goes, but not a $2k on EBay book. It isn't in the same vein as CAA. It's only rare because it is a now unobtainable ebook, bricked the world o'er.

    Dynamic betting essentially is betting two ramps, one at your full bet sizes, the other at half your full bet sizes. You alternate every hand. Round #1 you bet $300. Round #2, given the same TC, you bet $150. Repeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by First Normal Form View Post
    Dynamic betting essentially is betting two ramps, one at your full bet sizes, the other at half your full bet sizes. You alternate every hand. Round #1 you bet $300. Round #2, given the same TC, you bet $150. Repeat.
    There are several forms of it. It should be noted, at least IMO, should be reserved for strong bankrolls to betting ramp. In other words, if your bankroll is marginal, the strategy should be avoided. I use a slightly different approach - I use a bucket approach whereby I have a top, bottom and mid range for each TC, thereby avoiding consistency of betting. There are factors I use to determine which range to use. I continue the chip up approach, or chip down, depending on win or loss, continuing the anticipated winning by continuing to chip up once the count has plateaued, and has started coming down.

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    Best advice is probably not to use it, unless you're spreading in black or higher. Even then, hit and run might be preferable. In any case, it won't fool a computer if they run a skills check, and PBs are usually alerted by a large spread, which opposition betting still requires.

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    I use it and work hard to generate the times to do it. I will not divulge in the open forum for obvious reasons but I always get a kick out of the suits explaining to the plops that say they wish they could play like me how I change my bets with the runs in the game. I have offered up other cover betting advice and the huge debate that ensues and the misunderstanding and misuse of the concept just seems like there is no upside to talking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    It just seems like there is no upside to talking about it.
    There isnt. If probably 9 out of 10 people who read this board dont understand the concept of opposition betting, how many casino personel out there do you think does? IMO this is not something that should be publicly discussed. And I say so having no idea if there actually is enough information available on the internet to understand it.

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    You still will have a high average bet at high counts and low average bet at low counts. It is unclear to me how any effective betting scheme can be camouflaged no matter how exquisite the method.

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