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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjackomaha View Post
    Do you have access to any other funds that you could use? Do you intend on taking a partial stake or are you looking for investors to back you completely?

    Also, how long would it take you to save up your own BR? I only ask because it could take a while to find an investor and by the time you do, you might have been able to save plenty? $5500 is not that much.

    Most investors prefer you to play with a edge, not based on past performance of a system.
    I plan to stake as much as I can, yet there is no way I can save near that much by October or September. The $5500 should give action to buyers for both trips. Unfortunately, I don't have access to other funds. My strategy and discipline is proven. Thank you for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caucasion View Post
    I agree with Howmany. You're not even playing with an advantage over the house. You got lucky using a betting system--the smartest thing to do is never play again (I guess technically it is smarter to gamble with other people's money if they let you).
    You're obviously a math guy like the most of us on here. Thus, I think it's funny for you to say, "you got lucky." Walk into a casino, sit at a game where the odds are against you and then win 10-40% of what you sat down with. Yes, that would be lucky. Now, do that 12 times in a row at 12 different casinos within 12 hours. That is not lucky, that is a proven strategy.

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    You can get 5500 off a credit card or why not just get a loan and pay it back after you win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bank builder View Post
    You can get 5500 off a credit card or why not just get a loan and pay it back after you win.
    Trust me, I would if I could. Plus this is an opportunity for others to receive above average interest right now. Thank you

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    Mr BJ75, I don't mean to discourage you but you aren't going to find any investors here. Your plan of playing with other peoples money at a disadvantage isn't a successful business model. It seems like you are familiar with investments so would you invest in anything that you knew was going to lose .5% constantly on average over the lifetime of the investment. That is what you are asking people here to do.

    12 winning sessions out of 12 is such a minuscule sample that it doesn't prove anything at all. Positive variance can be very tricky sometimes, it will lead you to believe that you can beat this game without an advantage, you can't. The best advice I can give you is enjoy the money you have won and don't be so quick to give it back. Do some research on how to mathematically beat bj and return to playing when you have learned to get an advantage, right now you don't. Norm has ran simulations of betting systems that span 1,000's to 1,000,000's of hands and none of them work. There are spans where there are winnings but they all follow the same path, being grinded down to zero.

    That is just some friendly advice, do with it as you please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DM21 View Post
    Mr BJ75, I don't mean to discourage you but you aren't going to find any investors here. Your plan of playing with other peoples money at a disadvantage isn't a successful business model. It seems like you are familiar with investments so would you invest in anything that you knew was going to lose .5% constantly on average over the lifetime of the investment. That is what you are asking people here to do.

    12 winning sessions out of 12 is such a minuscule sample that it doesn't prove anything at all. Positive variance can be very tricky sometimes, it will lead you to believe that you can beat this game without an advantage, you can't. The best advice I can give you is enjoy the money you have won and don't be so quick to give it back. Do some research on how to mathematically beat bj and return to playing when you have learned to get an advantage, right now you don't. Norm has ran simulations of betting systems that span 1,000's to 1,000,000's of hands and none of them work. There are spans where there are winnings but they all follow the same path, being grinded down to zero.

    That is just some friendly advice, do with it as you please.

    DM
    DM21, Thank you for your opinion. As strong as your opinion is, I'm your fine with challenging my system against yours. Mine will be more consistent with a lot less risk. Walk your talk. You could count all you want and never have 12 winning sessions. Don't get me wrong, I fully understand the count, yet it's not the only way to win. I can consistently win and insure future bets. I challenge you.

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    I gladly do not accept your challange, I hope you have success in your future endeavours.

    DM
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    Stop gambling my friend, none betting system works in the long run, if so "counting cards" wouldn't exist and maybe we were millionaires. You won't get any investors here. I strongly recommend you take the advice of the most experienced here. $1,000 is a good "BR per session" to start grinding the low stakes. If you change your mind you will receive help selflessly. Is my humble opinion. Good luck. Rudy.

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    Why does my name come up ?

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    12 winning sessions in a row? Sorry my friend, I had 23 sessions in a row (with a weak count), 20, 18, and the last month 15 (till Tuesday 13th, exactly), all of these within a year, with just an 0.5%-1.5% advantage over the house. And I'm sure many people here have had longest winning sessions than that. Don't take it personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DM21 View Post
    I gladly do not accept your challange, I hope you have success in your future endeavours.

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    Love people like you. You give such strong opinions, yet don't stand by them. You're stubborn to the point you have it all figured out. If it were for people like you, there wouldn't be a single revolution. What do you do btw DM21?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    12 winning sessions in a row? Sorry my friend, I had 23 sessions in a row (with a weak count), 20, 18, and the last month 15 (till Tuesday 13th, exactly), all of these within a year, with just an 0.5%-1.5% advantage over the house. And I'm sure many people here have had longest winning sessions than that. Don't take it personally.
    23 straight winning sessions? You went to a casino, sat down, and got up with a profit 23 straight times?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr BJ75 View Post
    Now, do that 12 times in a row at 12 different casinos within 12 hours. That is not lucky, that is a proven strategy.
    That's not a statistically significant sample, and that you are presenting it as one tells any intelligent player everything they need to know about your "proof" and your "discipline".

    Good luck finding investors. Since you're going for uneducated suckers, try to get more money out of them than a measly 5k, maybe by playing a long con.

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