I need to make $10,000

**gfkmp** · 08-19-2013, 02:34 AM

My plan to make 10k is as follows.

BR Around 3k. WONG in at true counts of 2.5 or higher. Flat bet $50. Immediately WONG out when the count goes neutral or below +2. Casino is lenient enough for this to occur. Any comments or tweaks are appreciated. I imagine it if all goes well it will take me 5-8 weeks of 5 days a week and 6-8 hours a day to make the 10k.

**Pacman** · 08-19-2013, 03:14 AM

No. This will certainly fail. Unless you hit super positive variance for the go, your best bet is to bet optimally and GRRIINNDD. But with so a small BR, your better off
applying at McDonalds and working for a year and save up.

Get a job bro.

~Pac

**AussiePlayer** · 08-19-2013, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by gfkmp

Any comments or tweaks are appreciated.

Leave the casino immediately, don't return until you've learned how to count and have an adequate bankroll.

**Intermediate** · 08-19-2013, 06:32 AM

Given your BJ strategy, I would be surprised if they would tolerate your play for very long. I also wonder whether you would be able to sustain your schedule for very long, and as others have said, the Variance will likely kill you. If you are willing to gamble, you might as well just put $1k on the Pass Line at the Craps table and take double odds. If you win, take a third of what more you need to get to 10K and put in on the Pass Line and take the odds again. Regardless of the result, walk away and reassess.

**ZenMaster_Flash** · 08-19-2013, 06:52 AM

A dreadfully self-destructive plan with likely failure.

Do you realize just what your e.v. is on those bets,

and just how few hands per hour you are likely to make ?

Your e.v. is practically nil, as is your hourly expectation.

**hitthat16** · 08-19-2013, 07:14 AM

Going against the grain here.

While your hourly and your e.v. Is small, if you can replenish your bank, I say go for it.

Make sure your counting and desk estimation is spot on first.

**Halbruno** · 08-19-2013, 07:18 AM

"Not gonna happen" as was told to me once by a PC at a Florida casino.

I recently had my bank shrink to this level. I had a similar approach. I had a short positive run, then a week later I busted out. Now I am wondering what to do next. If you have any suggestions, I also need to make $10k!

**moo321** · 08-19-2013, 07:48 AM

If you need to turn $3k into $10k (why?) this is not the way to do it.

You need to be back-counting shoes with much lower limits. Also, are you even sure you can count and play BS?

**blackjackomaha** · 08-19-2013, 07:50 AM

Not the wisest plan or an adequate enough BR. I assume you know your ROR? As others have suggested, you need to rethink your plan.

Or, if you're looking to get rid of $3k, I could make better use of it for you?

**ZeeBabar** · 08-19-2013, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by gfkmp

My plan to make 10k is as follows.

BR Around 3k. WONG in at true counts of 2.5 or higher. Flat bet $50. Immediately WONG out when the count goes neutral or below +2. Casino is lenient enough for this to occur. Any comments or tweaks are appreciated. I imagine it if all goes well it will take me 5-8 weeks of 5 days a week and 6-8 hours a day to make the 10k.

The Kamikaze BJ route is the best option if you are planning to get to $10,000 in short time. Don't shave for a day or two, act a bit drunk, wong in at a TC+4 count, plop the max amount down (hopefully, all $3000). and in one play you will double it. Come around another day, at another shop, do the same with your now higher BR and you may get to your desired goal. I cannot see you (or me) earning $7000k with a BR of $3000 in 5-8 weeks any other way. Kamikaze style, you may luck out and the odds are better than if you think you can grind out that kind of money.

**lurppis** · 08-19-2013, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

The Kamikaze BJ route is the best option if you are planning to get to $10,000 in short time. Don't shave for a day or two, act a bit drunk, wong in at a TC+4 count, plop the max amount down (hopefully, all $3000). and in one play you will double it. Come around another day, at another shop, do the same with your now higher BR and you may get to your desired goal. I cannot see you (or me) earning $7000k with a BR of $3000 in 5-8 weeks any other way. Kamikaze style, you may luck out and the odds are better than if you think you can grind out that kind of money.

Without the money to split or double, even at a high TC, this bet would have worse odds than just about anything else in the casino.

**bigplayer** · 08-19-2013, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by lurppis

Without the money to split or double, even at a high TC, this bet would have worse odds than just about anything else in the casino.

Exactly, he should never be betting more than 1/3 of his stack. He has a better chance of making 10K doing this than the other way, but also a very high chance of busting out completely.

KJ · 08-19-2013, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by bigplayer

Exactly, he should never be betting more than 1/3 of his stack. He has a better chance of making 10K doing this than the other way, but also a very high chance of busting out completely.

I have seem you suggest this before, big player. I don't even like talking this. It's just gambling.

My immediate thought was the 'hail Mary' approach described @ bj21. You divide your $3000 by 40 max bets and just play with a $75 max bet and high RoR, hoping to hit a positive flux run where you can then resize down to a more reasonable RoR, before you bust out. Still gambling, but with a little AP mixed in.

I initially refrained from mentioning this simply because of the OP's use of the word 'need' in need to turn $3000 into $10,000. 'Need' and 'risk' just seems problematic.