What is the optimal number of spotters to the BP on a team?

**BigJer** · 08-05-2013, 05:14 PM

It seems that it's around 5:1. What say you?

**mcallister3200** · 08-05-2013, 05:27 PM

The answer should be dependent on how much the spotters are being paid and what the bigplayers max bet is.

**bigplayer** · 08-05-2013, 10:21 PM

5:1 is perfect if you are a spotter and getting each is getting 20% of the win :-) Seriously, five spotters to 1 BP is probably too many as you're gonna have too many simultaneous hot shoes go to waste. 5 spotters for 2 BP's or 3 spotters for 1 BP seems like a better balance...but I'm open to argument about it.

RS · 08-05-2013, 11:32 PM

Can a sim be run on this? Or is this type of thing not supported by CVData?

**AussiePlayer** · 08-06-2013, 12:57 AM

Blackjack Attack 3 Chapter 1 should steer you in the right direction.

**bebe** · 08-06-2013, 05:12 AM

We have 3 to 1 but we also have it if the call in is playing the alternate can take the call and play the shoe.

**DBJT** · 08-06-2013, 01:49 PM

Off the top of my head I believe I remember reading it's between 2 or 3, per BP, and the diminishing returns / overkill begin to kick in after that. (Unfortunately I don't remember where I remember reading that.)

If you don't mind "wasting resources" and you want to capture absolutely EVERY penny in a given timeframe, going to 4-5 would probably do the trick...

-DBJT

**BigJer** · 08-06-2013, 02:43 PM

Thank you everyone.

**George C** · 08-14-2013, 05:51 PM

Real world experiences.

Back when Caesars was really Caesars I put together a mini-team with a $100K bank. I was the BP and I used three spotters. At the time Caesars had 45 6D shoe games badly cut but good rules. The best thing was at the start it was a heat-free environment. We traveled to Caesars some 18 times every 3 weeks flying in from Denver. I would be called in a hot shoe whenever the HiLo TC reached +2/more. Bet sizes were 2 x $500 no matter how high the count went. If I stood behind a shoe and was able to see 100 rounds per hour, I would play about 12 rounds with an EV of about 1.8% per round on average with their terrible cut.

Now I know what Don's BJA says but I found a tremendous amount of overlap using 3 spotters. This was a bit frustrating when I got signals from all 3 spotters and it happened a lot. I think 2 spotters would have been sufficient here. We made believers out of Caesars and they gave me and my guys the boot. However we did part them of 6-figures and an unbelievable comp hustle.