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[stopgambling]

7,7 vs 5 is bad ,really? Maybe for 7,7 vs 2,3 ,of course i maybe very wrong. If it's ndas maybe ,but for das 7,7 vs 5 is a disadvantage to split ,really?!

[stopgambling]

I said i do not agreed with dm 21 on 7,7 vs 5 . 7,7, vs 5 is advantagoeous with split ,especially das. my english bad ,i m sorry.

[mike818]

what would be an ideal bankroll with a $25 min table roughly

[RS]

$25,000

[DM21]

7,7 vs 5 is bad ,really? Maybe for 7,7 vs 2,3 ,of course i maybe very wrong. If it's ndas maybe ,but for das 7,7 vs 5 is a disadvantage to split ,really?!

I don't have it in front of me but I read an article about scavenger plays and I am pretty sure that you are at a disadvatage with a 7 vs 5 even though it sounds like a good hand that most people would buy off of you. I will have look it up when I get home, work computer = gambling web site restrictions :-(

[DM21]

yea i had a crappy book its called blackjack bluebook 2 i was searching the book for index plays advantage but it was a crappy one and didnt cross my mind to get a better book mainly because i dont go to the casinos very often maybe like 6-7 times a year. i agree alot of good feedback here im not ready to go back anytime soon until ive done my homework.

The author Fred Renzey posts on this forum so you should be a little respectful about his book. I haven't read it so I can't say if it good or not but I know he is respected in the BJ community and is a solid contributor when he does post here.

[Math Demon]

I think he means scavenger betting. Picking up others doubles and splits when they don't have the cash or willingness to make the proper move. Like someone at your table has 8, 8 vs 6 and they don't have any more money, you could buy one of his 8's and it benefits both partyies. There are less ethical savenger bets that seem like you are helping out the other player but they really are only helping you out, i.e. selling one of your 7's on a 7, 7 vs 5. Those opportunities exist but they are few and far between sometimes.

Ah! I had heard of "scavenger betting". Renzey mentioned it in his book and termed it "hand interaction". It involved filling-in other people's doubles, pawning off some of your splits, etc.

Thanks, DM21.

[Math Demon]

what would be an ideal bankroll with a $25 min table roughly

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[mcallister3200]

The author Fred Renzey posts on this forum so you should be a little respectful about his book. I haven't read it so I can't say if it good or not but I know he is respected in the BJ community and is a solid contributor when he does post here.

Everyone must do what they are comfortable with, imo pawning off splits is unethical and preying on others stupidity like a casino would.

[DM21]

Everyone must do what they are comfortable with, imo pawning off splits is unethical and preying on others stupidity like a casino would.

I agree, I am not a fan of scavenger plays. I have jumped in on some doubles for less when opportunity arose but I don't seek them out. Buying and selling splits seem kind of shiesty to me and can give you a hustler's persona. I'd rather give up that EV for being thought of as unassuming player.

DM

[steveistheman84]

you also have to keep in mind that if you should never bet more than 1/3 of what you have on you because of the doubling and splitting factor.

[Math Demon]

I agree, I am not a fan of scavenger plays. I have jumped in on some doubles for less when opportunity arose but I don't seek them out. Buying and selling splits seem kind of shiesty to me and can give you a hustler's persona. I'd rather give up that EV for being thought of as unassuming player.

DM

I seldom do scavenger plays. It could be a source of unnecessary attention. I just mentioned that Renzey included some of those in his book.

[mike818]

im just wondering if anyone likes to play with teams/groups or would you rather not just and play by yourself?