A few questions for the experienced

**bobcat21** · 06-17-2013, 02:39 PM

Greetings-

I am a 12 year vet of BS blackjack with many hours logged in with about 30 trips to Vegas. I have recently read a couple of books by Snyder and Wong. I own/run a business and have a family so my time at the tables is now limited to a few days a year at this time purely for fun. In my single days I played extensively (due to room comps) and got lucky and enjoyed winning more than losing with pure BS with progressive betting (I know lol) I am looking to take my game up to a part-time professional level. Here is my potential game plan and would love input from the vets here whom I have great respect and admiration for...

I live a short flight from Vegas and would like to dedicate a monthly 4 day trip to Vegas. I would likely take a early am flight on Mondays and depart Thursday evenings. I would like to start with a bankroll of $20k which I am in the process of gathering (should have by the end of summer) and only play at green chip spread 1-6 dd, 1-12 shoe. Red 7 is the count I am most comfortable with. I would have no problem starting with red chips but from extensive reading believe green chip min should be utilized to access the best strip rules (S17 and surrender) I love surrender and prefer to play with it although it seems to not give large advantage. I seem to prefer shoe games for some odd reason so I guess in one way its better to avoid counter traps, and to use surrender lol.
My cover is good and I have had some experience of heat when pit crews thought I was counting due to probably winning too much (best weekend ever walked away up 18k from a 4 day weekend of casino hopping on the strip)- ahhh memories- I digress.

I guess my questions are how feasible does one with experience believe this to be, and what kind of ROR/hourly average am I looking at. Any suggestions and imput would be much appreciated. Thank you for your time.

Bobcat21

**hitthat16** · 06-17-2013, 03:02 PM

I'm still pretty new to AP myself, but my guess is that people here will say you should add another 10K to your bank at least to play 1-12 in green.

**Renzey** · 06-17-2013, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by hitthat16

I'm still pretty new to AP myself, but my guess is that people here will say you should add another 10K to your bank at least to play 1-12 in green.

That's about the least you want to do it with (30k). And don't be too surprised if 20k of it vanishes somewhere along the way.

RS · 06-17-2013, 07:13 PM

In my opinion, if you're wanting to play for a good amount of money and play "legit" (not like for "fun" a few times a year), I would say play with a stronger counting system. But then again, that's just me, as I'd rather play a stronger system than a weaker system.

Good luck!

**discostu** · 02-01-2021, 02:24 PM

The rules don't matter too much. Penetration and heat are the biggest factors by far.

Might want to increase your spread too- you can get down 2x$200 or more at $10 DD and then leave after that deck.