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    Huge RoR

    I wouldn't consider myself a Card Counter by any means. I do, however, enjoy taking $100 or $200 dollars every few weeks and play. I Wong in and out quite aggressively to avoid playing in poor situations. Do you guys have any tips on how to play, regarding min bet an bet spreads at a $10 or $15 table? Some of you will say I shouldn't be playing in the first place, and I understand, but going is really fun for me and losing a few hundreds dollars is no big deal. Thanks

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    How do you know when to wong in or out if you're not counting?

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    I should rephrase then. I count using hi-lo, but don't know all the indices/cover play/etc. that a professional counter uses. I usually wait for a +2 TC to wong in then around -1 to -2 TC to get out.

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    Lemme see if I get this... You're saying that you count using HiLo, but don't use indices, etc... I assume by count, you mean you get to the TC, deck estimation etc... So in essence, you're counting just to know when to wong-in and out and playing basic. Correct?

    First, you need to understand just how important playing deviations (indices) REALLY ARE to your BJ game. It is highly recommended that you learn to incorporate them into your play if you are indeed seeking a positive game.

    From this point you're asking for tips on a betting spread, etc. Your playing unit is what's important here and it is all dependent on your BR and desired ROR. If what I presumed above is correct, then you don't need a spread. You're back-counting, wonging-in and wonging-out. When the count goes positive, TC +1, or TC +2, then you wong-in and flat-bet whatever your previously calculated numbers recommend. When the TC starts to tank, you start developing your exit strategy.

    Rinse and repeat.
    “You aren’t making money until your money is making money.”

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    If you're playing to win, then you should work on your AP skills, and build up a proper bankroll. You probably already know this.

    However, if you're just playing for fun, and you admit this to yourself - as it sounds like you have - then that's fine too. The most important advice for that situation, though, is stick to your stop-loss limits. If you have only budgeted $200 for the week, and you catch yourself going to the ATM for more, you have the beginnings of a serious problem and you should react accordingly. That means maybe leaving the casino alone for a few weeks, or if you need to, stopping altogether.

    Interestingly, this is the exact opposite of what is advised if you are counting professionally - getting stuck with just $200 at the table would be a nightmare for most APs. Because of this difference, it's very important that you know exactly what your objectives are.

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    If you already know how to count, adding indices to your skill set should be a piece of cake. I would strongly recommend it.

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