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Thread: Prize Car: playing 2 spots vs 1

  1. #11
    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: results of 1 spot vs 2 spots with slow vs fast dealer

    > So the bottom line is, when playing solo (heads-up):

    > 1. If the dealer's fast, it's a wash.
    > 2. If the dealer's slow, play 2 spots.
    > 3. If the dealer's fast but takes more time with your
    > hand, like confirming things like hard 19, etc., then
    > play 1 spot.
    > 4. If the dealer's fast with your decisions but
    > regular to slow with his hand or whatever else, play 2
    > spots.

    > Any comments on this are appreciated.

    A few:

    1. Instead of just writing equations and numbers of seconds on a piece of paper, have you actually attempted to replicate the speeds that you are advocating, by dealing and/or playing out the hands on a table? I think you will find that, for the most part, your "fast" numbers simply are not realistic. Nonetheless, counters need to play as much as possible with fast dealers, so, for me, it is, and always has been, a wash to play two hands heads-up, and I've been saying it for 28 years. (Not everyone has been listening for 28 years, however! :-))

    2. "If the dealer is slow," then who in his right mind would choose that table? I've seen dealers who, towards the end of their shifts, deal like zombies. Frankly, I've always been surprised that the casinos tolerate it. Some elderly men dealers at Caesars were/are notorious for this. I would die before sitting down at such a table. Playing there would drive me out of my mind.

    3. You never get the same dealer for an hour straight, so, no matter what you determine at the start of the hour, the situation is going to change before the hour is over.

    Don


  2. #12
    Prize Car
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    Prize Car: Re: results of 1 spot vs 2 spots with slow vs fast dealer

    good points.

    Yes, I've tried to simulate dealer speed, but it's not easy, because for every set of 20's you wave off, you also get some crazy DAS resplit hand that takes an entire minute and half your money's literally on the table. So it's hard to figure out the true average without actually taking some live data.

    Thank you for your comments.

    I will immediately go back to playing 1 spot heads-up. ;-)

  3. #13
    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: results of 1 spot vs 2 spots with slow vs fast dealer

    > I will immediately go back to playing 1 spot heads-up.
    > ;-)

    The point is, it simply doesn't matter. If, once another player joins, you're going to play two, as you should, then you may just as well play two all the time, including alone -- so long as you understand that, for heads-up, you don't gain anything.

    Don

  4. #14
    21forme
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    21forme: Re: results of 1 spot vs 2 spots with slow vs fast dealer

    I like playing 2 spots because two medium bets seem to cause less attention with the pit than one big one - for example, 2 x 300 v. 1 x 500. I know it shouldn't matter, but it does. Another example - put out a big stack of greens, no alerts. Put out one black, dealer screams "black action." Go figure!

  5. #15
    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Yes, I agree

    > I like playing 2 spots because two medium bets seem to
    > cause less attention with the pit than one big one -
    > for example, 2 x 300 v. 1 x 500. I know it shouldn't
    > matter, but it does. Another example - put out a big
    > stack of greens, no alerts. Put out one black, dealer
    > screams "black action." Go figure!

    I agree with both of your points.

    Don

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