I'm not even sure if it makes sense.

We know that penetration affects bet ramps. We also know that it affects index generation for specific systems. But that's not what's on my mind.

What's on my mind, is the distribution affects of shallow penetration. We know that more hands per hour is better for whomever has the edge, e.g., casinos in most cases. Therefore it's in their best interests to deal deeper cut games, as in 6 deck shoe games. But we consistently see deteriorating conditions across the casino landscape, and I'm curious as to whether or not - since they too employ math consultants, and certainly those that are in the casino's corner and that maybe their math consultants have figures (results) that are basically different than ours.

Empirically speaking, and only empirically speaking, when more than two decks are cut off of a 6 deck game, it seems that the casino's edge is considerable more than it is off the top.

Here is why I'm having difficulty. Obviously we know that there can be clumps of cards that seem to stay in place throughout certain shuffles. If you're tracking, you can get a pretty good handle on them, and it's to your favor. Of course, there also low card clumps that can also stay in place. I also notice, again empirically, that if a dealer has larger than normal grabs, e.g., 52-60 cards in each hand, that it seems (again) that these clumpings stay in place, and try as you might, i.e., cutting in as many places as possible, doesn't seem to affect how the cards are dealt.

I've observed this at one casino in particular, with an amazing degree of awe. Granted, it's probably just voodoo, but when you push as many large bets as I have, and my tracking is up to snuff - after all, when paint is expected, it is being delivered, it makes me wonder.

So, are there any sims that the casino's have used, that are different in expectation from what players have and expect, to justify in the casino's minds that they are in better shape with shallower decks, albeit the lost hands played, than they would be in deeper dealt games?

Sorry for the convoluted nature of this, as I'm clearly having a prolem with properly formulating a question, but how much more of an edge (I guess this is the question) does the casino enjoy - if any - over the basic strategy player due to more decks cutoff? And can this be shown mathematically, that the edge doesn't change, e.g., an LV strip game with DAS/LS/RSA/S17 is .26 If this game had 2 1/2 decks cut, can we know for certainty that this edge - assuming a zero count - is the same after 1 deck is dealt? 2 decks? 3 decks?

Thanks for reading, if you got this far. :-)

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