# Thread: chgobjpro: True count ?

1. ## chgobjpro: True count ?

Near the beginning of a 6D shoe, if my running
hi-lo count is 10 and my hand count of all hands played so far by players and dealer, is 19 (aprox 51.3 cards(19x2.7), then is my true count for my next bet 1 because I truncated the deck denominator to 6, or 2 because I rounded the deck denominator to 5.

2. ## Karel: Re: True count ?

The best strategy is to ROUND the deck denominator, then calculate the TC and FLOOR the calculated result. (Theoretically best would be to use the number of decks precisely, calculate the precise TC, and then floor the result. However, such a precision is not important.)

For example, if your RC is 11 and 5.1 decks remain, you should calculate TC as FLOOR(11/5) = 2. If your RC is 10, you also get FLOOR(10/5) = 2. Theoretically, in the latter case the best calculation would be to calculate FLOOR(10/5.1) = 1, but such a precision is quite redundant. You should not calculate FLOOR(11/6) = 1, nor FLOOR(10/6) = 1.

You may want to consider half deck precision towards the end of the shoe.

Regards,

Karel

> Near the beginning of a 6D shoe, if my
> running
> hi-lo count is 10 and my hand count of all
> hands played so far by players and dealer,
> is 19 (aprox 51.3 cards(19x2.7), then is my
> true count for my next bet 1 because I
> truncated the deck denominator to 6, or 2
> because I rounded the deck denominator to 5.

3. ## MathProf: A Different Approach

If I had this situation, with an RC of 11, I would know that my TC is +2 if the number of unseen decks is more than 5.5. Here is is clearly better than 5.5, so I would call it +2. This would call be a bigger bet.

For cover reasons, I like to find opportunities to bet bigger at the beginning of the Shoe, since it reduces the need for jumping to big bets later in the Shoe. I believe that a bet jump at the end of the Shoe is the one of the most obvious sign of card-counting.

> The best strategy is to ROUND the deck
> denominator, then calculate the TC and FLOOR
> the calculated result. (Theoretically best
> would be to use the number of decks
> precisely, calculate the precise TC, and
> then floor the result. However, such a
> precision is not important.)

> For example, if your RC is 11 and 5.1 decks
> remain, you should calculate TC as
> FLOOR(11/5) = 2. If your RC is 10, you also
> get FLOOR(10/5) = 2. Theoretically, in the
> latter case the best calculation would be to
> calculate FLOOR(10/5.1) = 1, but such a
> precision is quite redundant. You should not
> calculate FLOOR(11/6) = 1, nor FLOOR(10/6) =
> 1.

> You may want to consider half deck precision
> towards the end of the shoe.

> Regards,

> Karel

4. ## chgobjpro: Re: A Different Approach

> If I had this situation, with an RC of 11, I
> would know that my TC is +2 if the number of
> unseen decks is more than 5.5.

Do you mean less than 5.5? which Karel recommends rounding to 5. (5.5 or more would round to 6.)

I'm going to give this method a try.

PS I do use half deck counts, but I was using full deck only as an example.

5. ## Karel: How is it different? :-) *NM*

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