A10Ploppy: T/C UBZ2

[Praying Mantis]

> I had a great deal of trouble getting accustomed to
> level 2 tags. While I quickly mastered counting down
> decks, the slightest distraction in a casino would
> cause me to lose the count. It took several months of
> practice before I was able to overcome this.

> Even today, after using UBZ2 for several years, I
> still become mentally fatigued more quickly than I did
> when I was using KO. Of course, advancing age may have
> something to do with that. :-)

Well, there's hope for me afterall. I guess my brain is so used to level 1 tags that it fights me when I try to tell it something different.

> Some individuals learn and switch counts effortlessly,
> even going so far as to use one system for single deck
> and/or double deck games, and an entirely different
> system for shoes.

> I hate those people. :-)

I do, too!

Thanks for the hope!

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[Praying Mantis]

> Exactly!!

Whose to argue with the masters! You and Don did a good enough job to convince me. Now, all I have to do is get used to level 2 tags. I know I'm looking FORWARD to the results, for sure!

> Many years ago Don and I talked about this very thing
> and arrived at the same conclusion. I constructed a
> system to be both powerful and simple. The UBZ2 has
> proven to be just that, just the way it is. John
> Auston sent me his work on a TCUBZ2 and I believe it
> may be archived on this site, if you have to have a
> true count version of UBZ2.

I haven't seen that, but will look. I do have a copy of John's 1998 simple system using UBZ II where he is not using a true count but starting the RC at -8, making the pivot, essentially zero. Then he goes into simple deviations from that point.

I assume you had a chance to look it over, what was your opinion, John says with 1-6 spread yields almost 2 unit win rate? These deviations are even more simpler than what you give in your book.

Thanks,

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[George C.]

PM:

(I assume you had a chance to look it over, what was your opinion, John says with 1-6 spread yields almost 2 unit win rate? These deviations are even more simpler than what you give in your book.)

When I moved to Vegas some 5 years ago, I lost quite a bit of my BJ info., including my original hard cover Beat the Dealer by Ed Thorp. I'll look around for John's material, but doubt that I'll find it. You may email John directly and get the info.

For the record whatever John said is Gospel.

[A10Ploppy]

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I don't have that book but would be really interested in finding out more, particularly what type of game the 2 unit rate was based on, I'm assuming it's 2d though.

[Praying Mantis]

> When I moved to Vegas some 5 years ago, I lost quite a
> bit of my BJ info., including my original hard cover
> Beat the Dealer by Ed Thorp. I'll look around for
> John's material, but doubt that I'll find it. You may
> email John directly and get the info.

I actually printed the info, it's listed in the archived portion of BJ21, I believe.

> For the record whatever John said is Gospel.

Sort of thought you would say that. Thanks!

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[Praying Mantis]

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> I don't have that book but would be really interested
> in finding out more, particularly what type of game
> the 2 unit rate was based on, I'm assuming it's 2d
> though.

Yes, it is.

Okay, you and George have me digging for my copy and I found it. It was NOT BJ21 archives; instead was on BJMATH. Go here and you can read it:

http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/counting/UBZcount.htm

It is called: "Very Simple, Yet Powerful, UBZ System for DD". hope this helps.

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[Praying Mantis]

John's system was NOT from BJ21, but BJMATH.

Here's the link:

http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/counting/UBZcount.htm

My apologies for any inconvenience of my prior post.

Regards,

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