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    ES
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    ES: Q's for Don

    Have you seen Bootlegger's new book, "Bootlegger's 200 Proof Blackjack"?

    I like the book.

    Have you seen Stanford Wong's latest book, "Wong on Dice"?

    I haven't gotten my copy yet. I wouldn't buy a craps book unless it were written by a known gambling expert.

    Do you believe that a player can get an edge at craps by setting the dice?

    I am skeptical. The dice are supposed to travel across the table and hit a wall with rubber spikes before coming to rest?

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: Q's for Don

    > Have you seen Bootlegger's new book,
    > "Bootlegger's 200 Proof Blackjack"?

    > I like the book.

    Just finished a complete reading. I'm very favorably impressed. Of course, that didn't stop me from sending him seven single-spaced pages of corrections/comments/suggestions (par for the course), but the book is handsome, well written, and very ambitious. To me, it's a winner!

    > Have you seen Stanford Wong's latest book, "Wong
    > on Dice"?

    Proofread that manuscript for him, as well. May not have seen late pages that were added, but probably have read 90% of it.

    > I haven't gotten my copy yet. I wouldn't buy a craps
    > book unless it were written by a known gambling
    > expert.

    And even then, I'd be cautious.

    > Do you believe that a player can get an edge at craps
    > by setting the dice?

    > I am skeptical. The dice are supposed to travel across
    > the table and hit a wall with rubber spikes before
    > coming to rest?

    Yes, I know. To become better informed, I have been reading Wong's Craps page for the past few months. I, too, remain skeptical, but I've come to learn that the rules governing hitting the back wall are kind of vague. We think of the dice smashing into the wall and rebounding back toward the shooter, wildly. In fact, that isn't what happens at all with so-called "controlled shooters." Instead, they kind of "scoot" the dice into the wall, "kiss" it rather gently, and then, the dice rebound without any further rotation.

    With that kind of action still, apparently, permitted by casinos, it appears that some form of control may be possible. But, from what I'm reading, it takes an inordinate amount of practice and skill to become competent enopugh to win.

    Don

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    ES
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    ES: Re: Q's for Don

    > Just finished a complete reading. I'm very favorably
    > impressed. Of course, that didn't stop me from sending
    > him seven single-spaced pages of
    > corrections/comments/suggestions (par for the course),
    > but the book is handsome, well written, and very
    > ambitious. To me, it's a winner!

    I haven't finished it it. It explains important things simply and concisely.

    > With that kind of action still, apparently, permitted
    > by casinos, it appears that some form of control may
    > be possible. But, from what I'm reading, it takes an
    > inordinate amount of practice and skill to become
    > competent enopugh to win.

    Key words: Still APPARENTLY [emphasis added] by the casinos

    How likely is it that a dice setter will be accused by a casino, charged with cheating by a state and convicted by a jury?

    Key words: inordinate amount of practice and skill to become competent enough to win

    My forte remains math, not manual dexterity.

    I ordered the book because it is written by Wong and for entertainment. I would never pay $200 for it, but I would pay the price of a hard cover novel or nonfiction book. As opposed to counting cards or risk of ruin, I suppose that dice control can be more effectively learned from a video or better yet personal instruction than from a book.

    I made a suggestion to Wong. Make mention of the very rarely offered "Don't Place" or "Place Bet to Lose" bets. They are authorized by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission regulations, but I don't think any Atlantic City casino offers them. The EV on Don't Place 6 (or 8) is 1.83%, making it one of the least unfavorable bets on a craps table if available.

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