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Thread: Cardkountr: AC Single Deck Blackjack

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    Cardkountr
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    Cardkountr: AC Single Deck Blackjack

    I have posted a description and the rules of Atlantic City's first Single Deck game on the Pro Players Page, current as of yesterday. I'm mentioning it here only to direct members to that page as many of us don't regularily check in.

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    Ouchez
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    Ouchez: The real deal? *NM*


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    Sun Runner
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    Sun Runner: Re: AC Single Deck Blackjack

    > I'm mentioning it here only to
    > direct members to that page as many of us
    > don't regularily check in.

    Many of us can't check in at all!

    Is it being offered to the public? If so, why can't the details be posted here?

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    Cardkountr
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    Cardkountr: Sun, You are right, the Rules are.......

    > Many of us can't check in at all!

    > Is it being offered to the public? If so,
    > why can't the details be posted here?

    Sun, you are absolutely right...the rules are as follows:

    6 spot table, 2 tables out on the floor with limits of 10/500, no SD in the high limit room, 2 rounds dealt regardless of the number of players at the table. Rules: NMSE, H17, BJ 6:5, DOA, No DAS, SPA1, SP2 for a total of 3 hands, NO HOLE CARD, Dealer BJ returns any double or split bet, Players allowed to play 1 spot on the first round and 2 spots on the second round.

    Trackjack edge gives it a house advantage of 2.021% which is more than four times the advantage they have in their 6 deck shoe game.

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    Ouchez
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    Ouchez: Wow, what a game! :( Thanks for the info. *NM*


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    Sun Runner
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    Sun Runner: Thanks. Help me a little ..

    It's not Friday the 13th or April Fools day; you are being serious here, right?
    Of course the 6:5 blows any probable scenario, but bear with me some ..

    > 6 spot table

    > limits of 10/500

    Can you jump 1 to 50? In AC, they can't bar you, right? I guess they could shuffle you up one round after another.

    > 2 rounds dealt regardless of the number of players

    Well, it ain't the rule of six! But what if you played third base and the table was full. Before playing your second hand you would have seen about 35 cards .. 37 before you have to decide to dbl or split. That's not horrible is it?

    How do they shuffle, if you know?

    > NMSE, H17, BJ 6:5, DOA, No DAS, SPA1, SP2 for a total of 3 hands,

    > NO HOLE CARD, Dealer BJ returns any double or split bet

    If the dealer BJ returns any doubles and splits lost, what is the point of no hole card. Do they use a card reader? Are they watching for Morgan or Grosjean or whatever he goes by? (I really don't know; it's Morgan, right?)

    Thanks for the insight.


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    Ouchez
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    Ouchez: Doubles and splits always returned

    > It's not Friday the 13th or April Fools day;
    > you are being serious here, right?
    > Of course the 6:5 blows any probable
    > scenario, but bear with me some ..

    > Can you jump 1 to 50? In AC, they can't bar
    > you, right? I guess they could shuffle you
    > up one round after another.

    > Well, it ain't the rule of six! But what if
    > you played third base and the table was
    > full. Before playing your second hand you
    > would have seen about 35 cards .. 37 before
    > you have to decide to dbl or split. That's
    > not horrible is it?

    > How do they shuffle, if you know?

    > If the dealer BJ returns any doubles and
    > splits lost, what is the point of no hole
    > card. Do they use a card reader? Are they
    > watching for Morgan or Grosjean or whatever
    > he goes by? (I really don't know; it's
    > Morgan, right?)

    > Thanks for the insight.

    if dealer flips a BJ.

    At least everywhere I have played.

    Ouchez.

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    Sun Runner
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    Sun Runner: Re: Doubles and splits always returned

    I understand .. so what's the point of no hole card? Game protection?

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    Ouchez
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    Ouchez: I would think so...never thought

    > I understand .. so what's the point of no
    > hole card? Game protection?

    much about it since I never play it.

    Still working hard?

    Ouchez.

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    Sun Runner
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    Sun Runner: Re: I would think so...never thought

    > Still working hard?

    Yes, am here now but leaving soon for the night!

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    Cardkountr
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    Cardkountr: Sure

    > It's not Friday the 13th or April Fools day;
    > you are being serious here, right?

    Absolutely serious!!

    > Of course the 6:5 blows any probable
    > scenario, but bear with me some ..

    OK

    > Can you jump 1 to 50? In AC, they can't bar
    > you, right? I guess they could shuffle you
    > up one round after another.

    In AC the law does not allow them to bar a player simply for counting, they are allowed to take counter measures and reshuffling every hand is only one of several they can take against a counter. For all the counter measures used, see my prior AC post on this page.

    > Well, it ain't the rule of six! But what if
    > you played third base and the table was
    > full. Before playing your second hand you
    > would have seen about 35 cards .. 37 before
    > you have to decide to dbl or split. That's
    > not horrible is it?

    No it's not........If they allow you to play your second hand without shuffling after each hand as they did to some poor guy just trying to make a living, who is extremely handsome but not modest. lol

    > How do they shuffle, if you know?

    Dealer hand shuffles the deck twice and then inserts the cards into an automatic shuffle machine and uses another deck the machine just finished shuffling while the second deck is being shuffled.

    > If the dealer BJ returns any doubles and
    > splits lost, what is the point of no hole
    > card. Do they use a card reader?

    No dealer card reader is necessary. The dealer gives each player 2 cards face down and the dealers card face up. He then will deal face up any player hit cards or doubles or hits on splits etc and only after all the player hands are finished does the dealer take his second card face up to complete his hand.

    Lets assume for a moment that you're at a full table with an even count or even a modest negative count, you know what your 2 cards are but you have no idea what the rest of the table has, the dealer has an ace, you opt to not buy ins, unknown to you each player has 2 low cards and proceed to hit, split etc as you watch maybe 12 or 15 non ten cards hit the felt...would you like to buy ins now? but wait you can't.....the next card from the deck is the dealers second card with a much higher probality of being a face card than what you thought it was prior to seeing all of the low cards being removed from the deck.

    Think how devastating it would be if the dealer did take all doubles and splits when he has a blackjack which is what I first thought until the situation came up and he returned my split portion of the bet which I thought may have been his mistake. The game is so new, the dealers are making mistakes, once the dealer even paid someone for a double after split (which is not allowed)

    Are they
    > watching for Morgan or Grosjean or whatever
    > he goes by? (I really don't know; it's
    > Morgan, right?)

    You know my feelings about the casino scum bags, they are watching for anyone who can think while playing.

    > Thanks for the insight.

    Your very welcome, have a great evening!!
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    Ouchez
    Guest

    Ouchez: Me too....

    > Yes, am here now but leaving soon for the
    > night!

    I am going on a BJ trip tomorrow as the weather is beautiful and I want to take advantage of it.

    I will play at a place I do not play at often and they are not familiar with me, I must be careful these days. I may camp out under the stars one night. It is most beautiful where I am going and I will put in around 7 hours of play each day. I usually put in much more but I don't want to waste the nice days in the casino. I will reserve that for the frigid winters.

    Regards,
    Ouchez.

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    Sun Runner
    Guest

    Sun Runner: One more time ..

    >> Well, it ain't the rule of six! But what if you played third base and the table was full. Before playing your second hand you would have seen about 35 cards .. 37 before you have to decide to dbl or split.

    I forgot about SD being dealt face down (don't play it much) .. so you don't see as many cards by the second round as I first thought; but still seems like decent pen for playing that second hand .. as that good looking gentlemen figured out.

    > No dealer card reader is necessary.

    Of course it isn't .. it's no hole card .. duh!

    > Lets assume for a moment that you're at a
    > full table with an even count or even a
    > modest negative count, you know what your 2
    > cards are but you have no idea what the rest
    > of the table has, the dealer has an ace, you
    > opt to not buy ins, unknown to you each
    > player has 2 low cards and proceed to hit,
    > split etc as you watch maybe 12 or 15 non
    > ten cards hit the felt...would you like to
    > buy ins now? but wait you can't.....the next
    > card from the deck is the dealers second
    > card with a much higher probality of being a
    > face card than what you thought it was prior
    > to seeing all of the low cards being removed
    > from the deck.

    If this is the answer to my question about why a no hole card practice is used, I must be to dense to get it. I'll have to noodle this around awhile.

    Thanks.

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