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  1. #14
    GT
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    GT: Re: AC Conditions

    Hi Hollywood,

    Are those games you mentioned No Mid Shoe Entry games?

    Thanks again,
    GT

    > Hi GT

    > You mention in your post that you only play
    > 8 deck AC.

    > It's not a secret that I also ONLY play AC.

    > So just for the record.

    > Excellent $25.00 6 deck games at the Hilton
    > and also and more important, every game is a
    > 6 deck game at the bogota.

    > At the bogota you can play a $10.00 6 deck
    > game.

    > Unless you're wonging/backcounting an 8 deck
    > game in AC, I think you should try to avoid
    > them.

    > Good luck

    > Hollywood

  2. #15
    Hollywood
    Guest

    Hollywood: Re: AC Conditions

    > Hi Hollywood,

    > Thanks for the info on AC, I really
    > appreciate it! What do you think about the
    > AC info given on CBJN, BJinsider.com, and
    > Trackjack?

    > And yes, I Wong the 8 deck games. I don't
    > feel like wasting money:-)

    Hi GT

    Always glad to help a fellow criminal (just how the casinos consider us)

    The problem with the services you mention is that I find the conditions change so rapidly in AC that they are almost of no help.

    One thing good about AC is that it's small. Unlike LV you can review stuff on your own very easily and if you don't like what you see you can either walk next store or take an $8.00 cab to the furtherest one.

    Once they followed me out of a casino to see where I was going and I jumped into one of those jittys on the board walk and had a guy push me to another casino, walked into that one right out to a cab in the front to back to the casino they followed me from to get my car.
    It was the last time I parked where I played.

    At the hilton they have 10 tables outside the pit that are all 6 deck games, 2 of which have mid shoe entry.

    Unfortunately on the weekends when they are busy, they increase the table minimums.

    Bogota has by far the largest 6 deck choices.
    With every table being 6 decks, you need only search for the good pen and right dollar amount that meets your criteria.

    But, you need not wong to beat the 6 deck game in AC, I beat them solidly every year without exception since I put Don in my life and read the bible (BJ ATTACK) nightly.

    A couple of tips:

    I keep a log book of dealers that give good pen. I find they are creatures of habbit. It consists of names and general descriptions of the person.
    And the shift I see them on.

    I find in AC, the same people are on the same shifts and it almost never changes.

    Many of the dealers moonlight at other casinos.

    This is quite helpful, if you have a dealer giving excellent pen. In a casual conversation they will tell you how they are a single parent and working 2 jobs and the where and when.
    You can just happen to find yourself at his or her table when they are at the 2nd job.

    I wear a watch that is made for handicap people. It monitors for me how long i've been playing without anyone realizing it's vibrating on my wrist. I preset it also for shift changes, so that the 2 shifts are not having a conversation about me when the new people come on like in a hospital.

    Resorts, showboat and sands, hilton bogota have been best games as of this weekend.
    Marina, Harrah, Trump Plaza and ceasar are burn joints at the moment.
    Trop stay away from completly pen is so bad I don't even list it as a burn joint. They almost cut the cards in half, also even after the dealer does that she/he yells "shuffle check" and waits for a pit approval on the rediculous cut.

    I usually go to AC 3 times a week, so if it works for you, just let me know when you are going and I will give you up to the minute conditions.

    I hope some of this helps.

    Hollywood

    PS
    Sun lied to you. I'm not a nice guy

  3. #16
    tony guido
    Guest

    tony guido: Re: AC Conditions

    What kind of communication do they have between casinos In AC? I saw a guy told to stop playing at one of the clubs recently. Any rules governing keeping players out?

  4. #17
    Don Schlesinger
    Guest

    Don Schlesinger: Re: AC Conditions

    > What kind of communication do they have
    > between casinos In AC? I saw a guy told to
    > stop playing at one of the clubs recently.
    > Any rules governing keeping players out?

    No one can be told to stop playing BJ simply because he/she is counting cards. A Supreme Court ruling from the state of NJ says so.

    Don

  5. #18
    Hollywood
    Guest

    Hollywood: Re: AC Conditions

    > What kind of communication do they have
    > between casinos In AC? I saw a guy told to
    > stop playing at one of the clubs recently.
    > Any rules governing keeping players out?

    The communication in AC between casino's is not that good.

    Actually what is even more bazaar is that I have places that 20 minutes after I sit down and tell them I don't want to be rated for now. A person comes over to me and calls me by my first name and say's something like "so how you been ----"
    and the dealer cuts 4 of the 6 decks out when he deals the next shoe.

    Now the bazaar part.
    I play in that hotel's other casino's under my own name.

    And this situation exists for me in 2 seperate clubs. Go figure.

    So, no I don't find the communication between clubs to good.

    Hollywood

  6. #19
    tony guido
    Guest

    tony guido: Re: AC Conditions

    Do you think matters will change w/ Park Place now owning 5 of the casinos in AC?

  7. #20
    GT
    Guest

    GT: Re: AC Conditions

    Hi Hollywood,
    Thank you for all the SUPER INFO!!!

    I am glad to see a Veteran of the AC Blackjack wars here, giving out excellent advice.

    Thank you for offering to share info with me, I really appreciate the help.

    You are Da Man!!!
    GT

    > Hi GT

    > Always glad to help a fellow criminal (just
    > how the casinos consider us)

    > The problem with the services you mention is
    > that I find the conditions change so rapidly
    > in AC that they are almost of no help.

    > One thing good about AC is that it's small.
    > Unlike LV you can review stuff on your own
    > very easily and if you don't like what you
    > see you can either walk next store or take
    > an $8.00 cab to the furtherest one.

    > Once they followed me out of a casino to see
    > where I was going and I jumped into one of
    > those jittys on the board walk and had a guy
    > push me to another casino, walked into that
    > one right out to a cab in the front to back
    > to the casino they followed me from to get
    > my car.
    > It was the last time I parked where I
    > played.

    > At the hilton they have 10 tables outside
    > the pit that are all 6 deck games, 2 of
    > which have mid shoe entry.

    > Unfortunately on the weekends when they are
    > busy, they increase the table minimums.

    > Bogota has by far the largest 6 deck
    > choices.
    > With every table being 6 decks, you need
    > only search for the good pen and right
    > dollar amount that meets your criteria.

    > But, you need not wong to beat the 6 deck
    > game in AC, I beat them solidly every year
    > without exception since I put Don in my life
    > and read the bible (BJ ATTACK) nightly.

    > A couple of tips:

    > I keep a log book of dealers that give good
    > pen. I find they are creatures of habbit. It
    > consists of names and general descriptions
    > of the person.
    > And the shift I see them on.

    > I find in AC, the same people are on the
    > same shifts and it almost never changes.

    > Many of the dealers moonlight at other
    > casinos.

    > This is quite helpful, if you have a dealer
    > giving excellent pen. In a casual
    > conversation they will tell you how they are
    > a single parent and working 2 jobs and the
    > where and when.
    > You can just happen to find yourself at his
    > or her table when they are at the 2nd job.

    > I wear a watch that is made for handicap
    > people. It monitors for me how long i've
    > been playing without anyone realizing it's
    > vibrating on my wrist. I preset it also for
    > shift changes, so that the 2 shifts are not
    > having a conversation about me when the new
    > people come on like in a hospital.

    > Resorts, showboat and sands, hilton bogota
    > have been best games as of this weekend.
    > Marina, Harrah, Trump Plaza and ceasar are
    > burn joints at the moment.
    > Trop stay away from completly pen is so bad
    > I don't even list it as a burn joint. They
    > almost cut the cards in half, also even
    > after the dealer does that she/he yells
    > "shuffle check" and waits for a
    > pit approval on the rediculous cut.

    > I usually go to AC 3 times a week, so if it
    > works for you, just let me know when you are
    > going and I will give you up to the minute
    > conditions.

    > I hope some of this helps.

    > Hollywood

    > PS
    > Sun lied to you. I'm not a nice guy

  8. #21
    Cardkountr
    Guest

    Cardkountr: Re: AC Conditions

    > What kind of communication do they have
    > between casinos In AC? I saw a guy told to
    > stop playing at one of the clubs recently.
    >Any rules governing keeping players out?

    As far as communication between casinos, generally they won't contact another casino unless you're betting at a level which could do damage and they're already suspicious of you in the first place and are simply looking for a confirmation from another property.

    It's not unusual for a player to be able to play unmolested at one property while being hassled using the same name at another Casino within the same corporate ownership. It appears that at least up to now, each property maintains their own data base independent of others within the Corporation, however that is changing with the introduction of comp cards which can be used at any casino within the Corp group. Harrah's or PPE are examples.

    Being a small town, many of the counter catchers have either worked with each other in the past or know each other and will informally make a phone call and ask what another catcher knows about player X etc. They will also make contact to alert each other when a team or a known player who is dangerous to them hits town.

    Overall AC is pretty tolerant of the casual counter and won't take any action unless a player is betting chunky black or is known to have a high cumulative win history.

    In NJ they cannot bar or refuse to allow a player to play BJ simply for counting but they are allowed to take countermeasures.

    Countermeasures used include restricting play to one hand, preferential shuffling (which is rarely used because it also costs them money and upsets other players at the table), reducing penetration, or bet restrictions. They may use any of the above countermeasures individually or in combination with each other.

    The rarest countermeasure used is betting restrictions. In NJ they are required by law to offer a 10 to 1 betting spread on any game with a 100 min or less. So what they will do is place an additional betting limit sign with limits of 5/50 on the table which only applies to the counter, and allow everyone else present to play the original limits ie: 100/5000. Once they place this additional sign on the table, any new player coming to the table can play the lower limit as well if they wish, even on a 100 min table and if the counter leaves the table, the casino cannot remove the lower limit sign without giving a 1/2 hour notice or receiving agreement of all the seated players. On games with min limits above 100 they can simply flat bet the counter without affecting anyone else at the table.

    I hope this info helps,
    Card.


  9. #22
    Hollywood
    Guest

    Hollywood: Re: AC Conditions

    > Do you think matters will change w/ Park
    > Place now owning 5 of the casinos in AC?

    Who can really say how those people think.

    They sit in a room and some of the idiots get Brain storms.
    I would think there would be a better plan then they have now. (but I hope not)

    I have been finding it easier to play unmolested recently. I have also found pen good in most hotels.

    So, it's a good question. Unfortunately we will have to wait and see.

    Hollywood

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