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Thread: AsZehn: KO vs Red 7

  1. #31
    AsZehn
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    AsZehn: Re: Comparison methodologies

    Appreciate all of your efforts on this matter. The KO book only lists 13 of the C22 with the full matrix. If it isn't too much trouble, could you furnish me with your C22 for 6 & 8 deck.

    Using an IRC of -24 for 6 decks, I believe you stated the optimal wong in point would be -2 what would it be for 8 decks. Again thanks for all of the analysis.

    AZ

    > I don't agree on going by the books. I've
    > found too many errors so I don't trust them.
    > This is so even if I decided to choose only
    > a small subset (C22).
    > The best thing to do is to generate your own
    > indices.

    > Sincerely,
    > Cacarulo

  2. #32
    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: Actually, that's my point

    > I don't agree on going by the books. I've
    > found too many errors so I don't trust them.
    > This is so even if I decided to choose only
    > a small subset (C22).

    Most people play with those errors. I wanted to supply results that matched their play.

  3. #33
    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: Actually, that's my point

    > Most people play with those errors. I wanted
    > to supply results that matched their play.

    You wouldn't prefer to supply the correct values so as to educate at the same time that you supply genial software? If you know there are errors, why help people to practice with the wrong values? How difficult is it to supply the correct ones?

    Don

  4. #34
    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: Re: Actually, that's my point

    While that's coming, I still think the majority of people will play with the indexes in the books. And even those that don't will use different numbers of indexes or generate indexes with different assumptions.

  5. #35
    Cacarulo
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    Cacarulo: Re: Comparison methodologies

    > Appreciate all of your efforts on this
    > matter. The KO book only lists 13 of the C22
    > with the full matrix. If it isn't too much
    > trouble, could you furnish me with your C22
    > for 6 & 8 deck.

    My book lists 18 plays for the KO-preferred. If I recall correctly you need to add TTv5, TTv6, A8v6, A8v5.
    The C22 used for this sim were calculated using SBA. They apply only for the rules used in the sim.

    IRC = -24

     Ins =  -1 
    16vT = -9
    15vT = 0
    16v9 = 5
    12v6 = -23
    12v5 = -24
    12v4 = -9
    12v3 = -4
    12v2 = -1
    13v3 = -24
    13v2 = -14
    11vA = -6
    10vA = -1
    10vT = -1
    9v7 = 0
    9v2 = -6
    8v6 = -4
    8v5 = 0
    A8v6 = -7
    A8v5 = -5
    TTv6 = 2
    TTv5 = 2


    If your IRC is -20 then add 4 to every index.

    > Using an IRC of -24 for 6 decks, I believe
    > you stated the optimal wong in point would
    > be -2 what would it be for 8 decks. Again
    > thanks for all of the analysis.

    No, I said that the optimal wonging point is -6. I haven't done the analysis for 8D so I can't tell what the optimal point is. Besides, it's rule-dependent.

    Sincerely,
    Cacarulo

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